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[Mel_Vixen]

I wonder what would happen if we were to build a wall across multiple embarks, blocking off a trade rout - would the traders and their pack animals get to the wall and freak out, doing that weird crawl thing they do whenever they get attacked at your depot?

Because that would be freaking hilarious.

Or use it to demand a toll

I can see it now: A dragon which leads ahuman civ blocks a road to demand 7 virgins per caravan coming through. To be fair i would do that too - i mean someone has to clean the lair right?

[Areyar]

A question about the development of supply and demand in the caravan arc: will there variable currency values and systems?
Currently, the money is all the same, just usable in different places. In the future, might the value of a civilization's currency depend on the state of it relative to the seller? For instance, money from a very far away place the seller rarely trades with would be worth less than normal, those from a collapsed civilization would only be worth the material it's made of, and money from a civilization that collapsed hundreds of years ago would cease functioning like currency and be valued as an artifact.
For that matter, would they ever have different value systems instead of the same copper/silver/gold currency system.

I think not, variable currencies are a modern economic issue, linked to the amount of gold and less traditional valuables backing the economy of the coin. (etc)
In the setting of roman-greko economics, currency was worth it's weight litterally.
pureness of the metals used had to be determined offcourse, and a nation with a bad reputation for using adulterated gold in its coin could find its coin rejected by experienced traders/moneyexchangers.
As we are unable to use anything less than pure metals and allloys, this is a moot point. for now.

[roguester]

I didn't want to use a dollar sign next to the numbers, and the yellow turtle seemed bright and shiny.

I've always referred to the dwarven unit of currency as the Shiny. 100 Shinys for a pigtail sock etc.

[The Merchant Of Menace]

That's totally my new word for it ^w^

[Neonivek]

Oddly enough there is a unit of currency in real life called a Shinnie or something like that...

[Djohaal]

The fact that metal seems to be somewhat more uncommon than currently left me a bit concerned about picking a good site (which already is a pain!). I wonder if different metal distributions could be used for each cavern layer, so it'd get more abundant the deeper it gets, and then civs could be limited to not being able to dig too deep (duw to low engineering hability) when it is working out the economy. Also another thing I wonder is if traders will bring more significant ammounts of metal bars when you ask, lest a bad sited fortress run into lack of metal (the horror!)

[Quatch]

Historically there were surface metals available in europe, but those all got mined out. Non renewable resource thing.

This could lead to easy access to metal shortly after refining techniques with a huge collapse when all of the surface/shallow pit accessible ore is used up. Fun times.

[Mel_Vixen]

On the other hand went some good deposits unused because there was not enough fuel thus charcoal to smelt the ore. The romans did just deforest half of the Continent.

[The Minister]

A few questions for Toad the Almighty:

1) Will we get a return to differentiated sites for different civilizations next release?  E.g. human towns being different from dwarven fortresses and goblin towers? 

2) With the caravan arc starting, will towns have workshops corresponding to the professions of their citizens?

3) Will adventurers be able to build and use workshops so as to interact with the economy any time soon? 

Thanks in advance Toady, your willingness to answer questions is amazing.

[Untelligent]

I don't think that any of those are going to be in the next release. Certainly not the third one (not in the next release, anyway), probably not the first one, slight possibility of the second.

[TomiTapio]

I didn't want to use a dollar sign next to the numbers, and the yellow turtle seemed bright and shiny.

I've always referred to the dwarven unit of currency as the Shiny. 100 Shinys for a pigtail sock etc.

From what I've gathered, one dwarf coin is about the equivalent of one Euro (€):
lowest quality stone mug: 10 €, elite handcrafted granite mug 120 €
nice stone +amulet+ 30€
good steel weapon: 1000 €, elite high-grade steel katana: 6000 €
pile of totally awesome meals: 1600-6000 € (30-60€ per meal like in fine restaurant)

and clothes are really expensive because they're all hand-woven and hand-crafted. Leather skips the weaving step so it's cheaper.

[Rose]

damn, mugs must be expensive where you are.

[Mel_Vixen]

Well if i get the figures right equal 50€ roughly a gold coin in medieval times. For df currency i would think 1 € equals 10 Shinys.

[Demki]

Just use ☼ =|
(for windows XP users, ALT+15)

[Nivim]

From 1.4 years ago...

Maybe kids will also play with toys to train their dexterity/ smarts/ etc depending on toy and have a preference for a certain toy type?
 Will dwarves be temporarily claiming or buying the instruments and such they desire/require for playing at a party?
 Music at a meetingplace party, will give additional happythought (dep. on quality of music) layer?

Yeah, we've wanted kids to play with toys forever, but never found the time.  Still not sure we will, he he he, but certainly having a kid bring a toy to a party would be a start.

I haven't planned out specifically how music will work.  I'm not guaranteed to even get to it, but I imagine they'll just be able to claim an instrument if there's one sitting around, as there's no point wallowing in the economy for now.  I put in some invisible skills for music a while ago, so the playing of the music would very likely have an impact on all of the party-goers.

 Is there point in wallowing in the economy now? Will time be found soon for toys?