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[alpha]

In previous versions of dwarf fortress, dwarves that were busy with some labor were improving their strength, agility and toughness and became more efficient at their work. Now I see that better part if not all of my dwarves are flimsy, clumsy, quick to tire, weak and whatnot. And the situation does not seem to be improving.

So my question is: is it possible to improve dwarf physical stats in .08 version ?

Thank you.

[Murphy]

Military dwarves do improve stats, albeit very slowly.

[alpha]

Military dwarves do improve stats, albeit very slowly.

This is quite sad since I do not use any military (have figured out more efficient ways of taking life than swinging metal sticks).

Oh well. Thanks anyway.

[noodle0117]

I've heard that giving your dwarves the job of pump operator improves their toughness very quickly.

[SpacemanSpiff]

I've heard that giving your dwarves the job of pump operator improves their toughness very quickly.

Not true in the new version, unfortunately. 

[alpha]

So is there anything that can be done to prevent ending up with a horde of cripples after 10 or so years in a fotress? (apart from assigning everyone to military)

[Aravin]

Well, i think it's rather realistic, cause the dwarf can't really get stronger doing some paper work or preparing food. But ofc, i think, that adding stats while hauling would be nice.
I think that mining makes dwarf stronger. At least my miners (well at least 2-3) have nice muscles from mining job.
I'd like Toady to implement some gym feature for dwarves. I prefer to see my dwarf fit and strong instead of corpulent and very weak too.

[einstein9073]

Well, i think it's rather realistic, cause the dwarf can't really get stronger doing some paper work or preparing food. But ofc, i think, that adding stats while hauling would be nice.
I think that mining makes dwarf stronger. At least my miners (well at least 2-3) have nice muscles from mining job.
I'd like Toady to implement some gym feature for dwarves. I prefer to see my dwarf fit and strong instead of corpulent and very weak too.

Hauling ought to increase strength, and probably constitution. Let's see someone who isn't stronger after hauling 300lb rocks for a season.

[Rkui]

Ye my military guys have all great stats, but all in my fort are flimsy. It seam wrestling get them all the other stats very well, legendary wrestler are really good stat wise, they are super agile, strong, can't be tired... Some of them run 3time faster than the other dwarfs, at least i can tell where are my soldier at first glance 
But if anyone managed to get the "flimsy" stat up, tell me how.
I play the 2010 version.

[BurnedToast]

Military training is the only way, it increases strength, endurance, and agility (important - makes them move and work faster). it won't train anything else, though.

Unfortunately military dwarves tend to get stuck training forever and won't go back to doing regular work, so it's useless for boosting up stats (this is possibly fixed for .10, I don't think so but I'm not sure).

[Aristoi]

So is there anything that can be done to prevent ending up with a horde of cripples after 10 or so years in a fotress? (apart from assigning everyone to military)

Disabling the attribute/skill rusting (there are some threads already on this) will at least prevent them from becoming cripples.  It will not help them increase their stats, though.

[Suddo]

I think pump operating should be a way to increase stats its a gym (maybe not as fast) so maybe having every other season or so you could tell your dwarfs to go to the "gym" and work out and quit being a fat oaf (spelling).

[clc02]

To people who want to remove the stat rust put this in creature_standard under the ment_att_range and phys_att_range

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[PHYS_ATT_RATES:STRENGTH:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[PHYS_ATT_RATES:AGILITY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [PHYS_ATT_RATES:TOUGHNESS:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
  [PHYS_ATT_RATES:ENDURANCE:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
  [PHYS_ATT_RATES:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
  [PHYS_ATT_RATES:RECUPERATION:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]

    [MENT_ATT_RATES:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:CREATIVITY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:EMPATHY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:FOCUS:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:INTUITION:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:MUSICALITY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:PATIENCE:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:MEMORY:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:SPATIAL_SENSE:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]
    [MENT_ATT_RATES:WILLPOWER:50:NONE:NONE:NONE]