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Author Topic: What do people have against G20?  (Read 8144 times)

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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2010, 06:09:31 pm »

I will never cease to be amazed when I see somebody wholeheartedly eschew the foundations that let them live happy, upper working class lives in their nation and throw their support behind a team of bankers who have largely failed to contain a massive economic depression.

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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2010, 06:23:58 pm »

I will never cease to be amazed when I see somebody wholeheartedly eschew the foundations that let them live happy, upper working class lives in their nation and throw their support behind a team of bankers who have largely failed to contain a massive economic depression.
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Dunno. But just to be on the safe side, let's grab our pitchforks and torches and burn down his house! :D
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 07:24:38 pm »

hmm, why do you assume everyone here is upper working class? For all you know the people saying that might be in fact said bankers, or their offspring.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 09:02:12 pm »

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, since him being the son of a banker would actually make it worse.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 09:30:00 pm »

how so?
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 10:29:23 pm »

I fucking hate G20s, I swear those dice are loaded.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2010, 10:39:31 pm »

Yeah! What have you guys got against anoxeric women with huge bra sizes?

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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 01:12:38 pm »

I don't think very many protesters actually believe in a cause.

There just doing it for the shits and giggles.

I disagree. People protest because they want to make a difference in this world. Somewhere along the way, they forgot to think whether a different world would be a better thing.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 04:30:00 pm »

id be up for some G20 rioting, unfortunatly they came to the uk a few years ago and i missed it.

How much power G20 (or G8) has is debatable but they represent the political and economic power of the modern world, so if your campagning for enviromental economic, or social issues it makes sense to protest there. And if your a bit miffed about the issues in the world you might feel the erge to RIOT.


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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 04:57:54 pm »

I disagree. People protest because they want to make a difference in this world. Somewhere along the way, they forgot to think whether a different world would be a better thing.
Yes, so these supposed rioters are well off in the place they are at? Can I get a link to this please? I'd love to see a non-oppressed group participating in a riot for little to no reason. Even the LA riots had the excuse of police profiling and oppression, with the desire to see a difference in that, viewing being treated equally as a better thing. I'd like to see pictures of G20 rioters that can't tell you exactly what they want different that wouldn't result in a better situation for them. Please provide a link. Thanks!

Edit: Found one, thanks!
http://apexnewsnetwork.com/23620/black-bloc-anarchists-riot-at-g20-summit-in-toronto/

Three Days Grace wrote a song about this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XncuY4wLaA8
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2010, 07:20:47 am »

I disagree. People protest because they want to make a difference in this world. Somewhere along the way, they forgot to think whether a different world would be a better thing.
Yes, so these supposed rioters are well off in the place they are at? Can I get a link to this please? I'd love to see a non-oppressed group participating in a riot for little to no reason.

Lol, I'm not sure what it's like where you live, but where I go, random protests happen once a month. I go to class and there's a protest in front of the library about amnesty treatment. I go from class to McDonald's and there's someone protesting the China censorship board. I go home and some ridiculously highly paid guys are protesting "low wages". I go downtown for a haircut and some Sydney university Marxist party is protesting the poverty caused by capitalism. I sit in class, and there's someone who asks me if I want to make a difference in some faraway foreign country. Walk from the kebab store a few blocks away and there's someone out there campaigning for food, medicine, or condoms for third world countries. Head down to the cafe at UNSW every Friday afternoon and you'll see liberal Agnostics/Christians standing up for the lack of Muslim religious facilities on campus.

They're everywhere, all the time. Riots are a different thing though, but a step above protests. I know some people who participated in a near-riot once, from people who hated the government and pressured to sue the Queen of England for giving independence to Malaysia and claiming that they're imported slaves because they're black. They have the right to be angry, but it's nonsense.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2010, 10:34:35 am »

What sort of people take part in these protests?

From what I've been able to discern, back in the day there were loads of protests held because people were young, full of hormones, misguided about the impact of their actions, and filled with the desire to help others at the detriment to "the man".

However, young people nowadays are a lot more lazy and apathetic. Certainly, I've noticed this.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2010, 10:45:43 am »

G20 protester protest about the decision taken on the G20, dhu. What would you think? for "shit and giggle"?

But which decision? I mean obama is leftish? No? So why are leftish protezsting against leftish? those are right wing riot?
Well, the answer is no.

Those rioters are usually left wing, or so you could say because anyway those classification are dumb.
The hard wing, a minority is anarchist or maoist or something and are there to break stuff.
The rest protest because the G20 usually play anlong with the corporation, and not with the poeples.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2010, 10:55:10 am »

G20 protester protest about the decision taken on the G20, dhu. What would you think? for "shit and giggle"?

But which decision? I mean obama is leftish? No? So why are leftish protezsting against leftish? those are right wing riot?
Well, the answer is no.

Those rioters are usually left wing, or so you could say because anyway those classification are dumb.
The hard wing, a minority is anarchist or maoist or something and are there to break stuff.
The rest protest because the G20 usually play anlong with the corporation, and not with the poeples.

Actually yes, it is for "shit and giggle". Surprising, I know.
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Re: What do people have against G20?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2010, 10:58:52 am »

The rest protest because the G20 usually play anlong with the corporation, and not with the poeples.

Playing along with the corporations instead of the people?

I put it to you that giving people what they want is precisely what a government should not do. If people always wanted the right thing, then there would be no need for a government at all - people could be left to their own devices and all would be fine.

It is because people want to do things which they shouldn't which is why the government exists. I would say that the purpose of the government is to maximise the total benefit of all those whom it governs. It does this by preventing people from doing things which benefit themselves at the cost of others (e.g. thievery) and things which do good in the short run, but harm in the long run (e.g. drugs).

Although siding with corporations, as you put it, is siding with the few over the many, corporations are a lot more rational and logical in what they want. There is a considerable amount of trickle down involved, too - If a corporation is based in a country, then benefits to that corporation will, in the long run, be benefits to the people in the country.
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