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[Enzo]

Honest feedback: Your webcomic is not interesting.

constructive feedback

>:(

You try to convince the audience the main character is awesome. Why is he awesome? Because you said so. So naturally, the character comes off as an annoying douche. If you want an audience to like a character and think he/she is awesome, do story archs which slowly build up their level of awesome over time rather than making giant neon signs pointing at them and saying "THIS GUY IS AWESOME, ALRIGHT?"

See, that's the beauty. He's already had all those boring arcs where he builds up awesome off screen, so when the story starts he is already awesome and you just sort of have to bask in it. It's a literary device, I think.

[forsaken1111]

I am sorry that you do not like my opinion, but it is what it is.

Constructive feedback? Okay... make a new comic which is interesting.

You try too hard, your humor is poor, your comedy is forced. It looks like a 12 year old wrote it while taking speed and a 15 year old drew it in MS paint.

[Enzo]

If that is your opinion, I happily invite you to not read it.

Clearly you are not the target audience and have no sense of adventure.

[forsaken1111]

If that is your opinion, I happily invite you to not read it.

Clearly you are not the target audience and have no sense of adventure.

You're right, I guess I have no sense of adventure. It's impossible that it is simply bad, I must be at fault.

[MrWiggles]

The comic has no redeeming qualities.

Its like terrible White Ninja or SMBC.

[alway]

Honest feedback: Your webcomic is not interesting.

constructive feedback

You try to convince the audience the main character is awesome. Why is he awesome? Because you said so. So naturally, the character comes off as an annoying douche. If you want an audience to like a character and think he/she is awesome, do story archs which slowly build up their level of awesome over time rather than making giant neon signs pointing at them and saying "THIS GUY IS AWESOME, ALRIGHT?"

See, that's the beauty. He's already had all those boring arcs where he builds up awesome off screen, so when the story starts he is already awesome and you just sort of have to bask in it. It's a literary device, I think.

That's not how it works... You can give you character a backstory and enter in after that. The thing is, just saying a character has an awesome backstory is not good enough. You still have to prove it to your readers; in a webcomic that means visually and preferably for several episodes. Think about any character which starts out that way: they are introduced in the midst of battle as they are showing off just how awesome they are. For example, Darth Vader is introduced while he boards a spaceship, surrounded on all sides by minions, and proceeds to strangle people to death with his mind. And even that is only after a multi-paragraph text intro about how he pretty much conquered the galaxy. Skipping all that and going straight to "awesome pose" just sets the whole thing up to fail in an epic way.

[forsaken1111]

Yeah, imagine darth vader introduced with no background and just standing around.

"Who the hell is this guy? He has a bucket on his head and a light bright on his chest... what is with the breathing? does he have a cold?"

[alway]

Another example is the reintroduction of Tex in RvB this week: http://redvsblue.com/archive/?id=1344
That's how you introduce a bad-ass character.

[G-Flex]

This has to be a joke thread. Has to be.

Um... it looks like you tried to do "so bad it's good" and got lost halfway.

Or this is the case. "So bad it's good" is hard to pull off intentionally, but if that's what you're going for, keep this in mind: It's not just an excuse to do sloppy, hamfisted work.

[Enzo]

Why are there so many haters in this thread? It's crazy.

That's not how it works... You can give you character a backstory and enter in after that. The thing is, just saying a character has an awesome backstory is not good enough. You still have to prove it to your readers; in a webcomic that means visually and preferably for several episodes. Think about any character which starts out that way: they are introduced in the midst of battle as they are showing off just how awesome they are.

Well, pretty much the first thing he did was blow up a werewolf. So there's that.

Anyway, I ran the Nazi Robot thing by my friend and we tossed some ideas around, he thinks it's totally gold. Rad idea Org. Since there seems to be some interest, here's the next couple pages. I tried to work on some of the things you guys suggested.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Shit is getting intense.

[forsaken1111]

At this point I'm sorry I even responded, now this craptastic thread is in my unread replies.

[Retro]

It's one thing to try and make an ironically bad comic, and it's another to pretend you're not in on the joke and make yourself look like an idiot.

[Makrond]

Ugh.
This webcomic is terrible. I get that's meant to be the point but it's not even good at being terrible. There's ironic humour and then there's just plain being as bad as whatever it is you're parodying. Guess which category this falls into.


fake edit: if this is, by some monumentally slim chance, not you being cute or whatever, and you genuinely think this is good enough to go up on the internet next to comics like Freakangels or Fanboys I don't know what to tell you beyond "swallow your pride, take some damn art classes and come back in 5-10 years when you have a basic concept of what objects and people look like."

Real edit: this reminds me of the other guy who came in here and asked for advice for a webcomic he and a friend were doing that was like three pages and all of them were utterly shite. Only that guy was serious.

[Enzo]

It's one thing to try and make an ironically bad comic, and it's another to pretend you're not in on the joke and make yourself look like an idiot.

Damnit Retro, people taking it seriously is the only funny thing in this topic. Don't ruin it.

[forsaken1111]

The sad part is that you failed not only at making a webcomic... you failed at making one bad enough that it was a joke.