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[Armok]

maybe we just need more air.

[dragnar]

While i didn't want to suggest doing the actual experiment, do we now know if there is any way to split an enlightened so that both halves are equally the person and so will regrow into two copies?

Most enlightened are not evil enough to deserve such treatment, but as long as at least one is...

We've seen enlightened chopped up before. Only one piece regrows, most likely the largest piece of the brain.

[Armok]

yea, but what happens if you cut the brain into two equally large pieces?

[Ochita]

Then it is stop asking annoying questions. Why do we need to know that?

[Karnewarrior]

You cannot chop the brain into two equally large pieces.
Even with a atom-splitting knife, You would still have two uneven bits of cells. Any cells you chopped in half would die and brak off, thus "roughening" the edges, causing two cellularly-unequal pieces.

Besides, why in the hell would we even want to know that? This isn't Man of SCIENCE!!.

And I do think we should put more points in Water. Being able to manipulate people would be incredibly useful, more so than being able to take a cannonball to the chest. As it is right now, water is the more used.

[penguify]

Air - Air is a measure of your mental prowess, the speed with what you are able to come to conclusions, your grasp of language, your ability to understand things of a technical nature. The higher your air score, the more intellectually able you are.

Water - Water is a measure of of your emotional sensitivity, your ability to grasp gestures and body language for what they are, how attuned you are to the world around you. Higher water means you're more able to sense and decipher emotions and make sense of certain aspects of the world about you.

Both Air and Water would be pretty good for manipulating people. Both are good, but remember we don't have any points right now, we already spent our most recent one on absorbing cannonballs.

Of course Water is good for stealth too, and Air is good for inventing Mechanical-Man-Countermeasures. Water is also good for spotting ambushes and observing a battlefield, while Air is good for scoping out and taking advantage of a battlefield (esp with our tactics specialization). Basically, both are good whether we're fighting or pulling strings.

Edit: Source for stealth claim:

Stealth and related powers are possible, but, you can naturally achieve a similar result by getting sufficient water, along with the other benefits of high water such as sensing unnatural energies.

[Karnewarrior]

I still say we get water next. A guy who can take a round of shotgun blasts to the face and walk away with barely a bad gash is badass. A guy who can walk into the enemy base and make them belive he's god is AWESOME.

Whatever, let's ask Alice about the new girl, and then have her help us interroghate her and hopefully help her out.

[Ochita]

Her name is Anne. Sir. Been reading too much of bandages?

[RAM]

There may be ways to get a situational modifier to our air score, such as research...
Although, I sense that we are not yet up to our old levels, and we didn't make an independently autonomous version last time, so we probably can't now, I suggest that we try, fail, and then go on a quest to gain the ability to do so, probably involving lots of mad scientists...

[penguify]

We might have to find an alternate means to create a robot than an artificial intelligence. Remote control, magic (summoning some sort of minor mystical or demonic entity into it?), or (in theory, I don't think he'd be willing to do this) doing the exact same thing as before (but with willing subjects. I don't think they exist, however).

We don't actually need a robot, either. There could be alternate means. For example, training captured Enlightened themselves. Without Pride, they're probably normal enough (like Anne). However, we'd have to get them all from captured and killed Mech-Men, and we'd also have to convince them to join us.

Does regeneration affect the time it would take to build muscle? Does anyone here know what mechanism muscle building uses? Depending on the mechanisms it uses, regeneration could speed it up, slow it down, or have little effect. How it works would affect both our own training and that of Anne (and possibly any other ex-Enlightened).

Does Air affect thinking speed or learning speed? That is, with a 10, could we become Awesome by Analysis, or pick up combat skills in minutes by observation? Or are thinking and learning speeds controlled by water, or by a combination of multiple stats?

[dragnar]

Muscle growth relies on muscle repeatedly being damaged and then repairing it better than before. Someone with enhanced regeneration could become stronger than any bodybuilder with a fraction of the effort.(EX: Wolverine. Superstrength is not one of his powers.)

[Silleh Boy]

With Oak no longer present your attention shifted between Anne and the woman who stood there blankly, her gaze almost vacant as she stared out over the fields impassively. You considered yourself to be good at reading people, at figuring what was going on behind the social mask they wore, picking out the hints that betrayed their emotional state. You considered yourself well adapted to this, and yet you couldn't see anything in her eyes, her body language or her expression.

There was nothing going on in her head emotionally, there was nothing beyond reflexive actions that hadn't been purged, there was nothing but an empty shell of a person stood there. An empty shell was one you hoped that could be filled with experiences, one that you could teach to live again, though you had little hope for her. You knew how much damage had been done, you knew that those that went through this were going to take something miraculous to restore them to who and what they had been before this.

You were no miracle worker.

Your attention shifted back to Anne as you sighed, unable to conceal how deeply this woman bothered you, prompting an expression of concern to cross Anne's features. She had seen you suffer before, she had seen the way that you had emotionally broken down when creating weapons of war. She knew you well enough to know when it was a bad idea to tease or provoke you, to know when supporting you was more prudent.

At least you hoped that was the case.

"Anne, you've a great deal of experience with the Enlightened, do you recognise her?" You asked, watching as Anne turned her attention toward the woman, as she examined her carefully.

"She looks like Sister Joy," Anne started, the pair of you watching the woman for any reaction to the name that she had once bore, though there was no change in her expression, no hint of reaction or recollection in her eyes. "Joy, it's Anxiety, do you recognise me?"

"My designation is Guardian-" the woman started, only for Anne to place a finger to her lips, her expression betraying how she clearly didn't wish to hear this.

"We can't call you by a designation, as a designation is not your name. Joy, do you remember who you are?" Anne asked, though the question was followed by an awkward moment of silence before Anne spoke once more. "Do you remember anything, Joy?"

Silence.

"Joy wasn't with us for too long before our capture," Anne sighed as she turned her attention back towards you, shaking her head slowly as she did so. "She was inexperienced as you can guess, though none of us were really that greatly able beyond our... Gift," She spat the word, shaking her head slowly as she did so. "I guess you could say in a sense, the Enlightened is like a group for people who wanted to be special, yet were unexceptional in any way. We weren't the smartest, strongest, fastest or toughest of people, most of us were afraid to die or wanted to be special somehow."

"Being mundane in such manners does not exclude you from potential greatness," you responded, gesturing to yourself as you did so. "I may be an exception to that rule, but it is still destiny, not ability that defines these things."

"Do you have any idea how to fix what was done to her?" Anne asked, quickly changing the subject as she turned her attention back to the other woman.

"Not at this time, though I will find a way. I am certain that when I remember more of what I used to know, that I will find a way to start her on the path to recovery."

"I really hope you can find a way to, as none of us deserve what was done to the ones they put in those bronze shells. Nobody deserves to be punished like that for giving into their fear, embracing that what they believe will protect them, even if it is misguided."

You looked up as you caught sight of motion out of the corner of your eye, sighting Oak leaving the house as he returned with a plain dress in hand. He was visibly holding his cheek, rubbing at it where redness betrayed how he had been struck. His wife was not the easiest of people to deal with you knew, and he had likely provoked her somehow.

"Ye know, I 'ave no idea why I though it were smart'o me t'tell me wife I wan'ed one o'er old dresses 'cause i'd look be'er in it than 'er."

Anne snickered as she heard those muttered words coming from Oak, taking it from him as she gestured for the pair of you to turn your backs to give them what little privacy you could while she assisted the other woman in donning that dress.

Both you leaned against the gate beside Oak as you silently gazed at the horizon, figuring that you had a few hours before the sun started to set. A few of his farmhands could likely be convinced to fetch the remains of the clockwork body for you, though it still left you with one thing to worry about.

Was it time to set off and catch the beginning of the gathering for a change, or were you going to remain here to take care of any other immediate matters while turning up fashionably late?

[Silleh Boy]

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Spoiler: "Some Minorly Spoilery Replies On Stat Stuff" (click to show/hide)

Does regeneration affect the time it would take to build muscle? Does anyone here know what mechanism muscle building uses? Depending on the mechanisms it uses, regeneration could speed it up, slow it down, or have little effect. How it works would affect both our own training and that of Anne (and possibly any other ex-Enlightened).

Euro's body has a quickened sate of recovery, that I suppose would logically allow him to build muscle faster. Increased muscle doesn't translate directly to increased fire or earth, though it may have things nudged in your favour where appropriate. The Enlightened however, have their physical attributes tied more to the nature of their corruption, thus meaning that they regenerate into their prior form that hinders their natural growth somewhat.

Does Air affect thinking speed or learning speed? That is, with a 10, could we become Awesome by Analysis, or pick up combat skills in minutes by observation? Or are thinking and learning speeds controlled by water, or by a combination of multiple stats?

Higher air does affect how easy it is for you to learn new things, at your current point you can learn new things relatively quickly if they bear similarity to things you already know. If they're new to you, you'll still pick them up faster than a normal person, though it'll take you time.
Higher air does make your thought 'swifter', as well.
Multiple stats do influence your efficiency in area's though, such as for example, high fire + air means more you can deliver more passionate speech while high air + water means you can deliver more poetic speech. Air is the primary stat for the mind though, and as such is the dominant one you'd need when learning, though higher related stats can help with your feel for, and understanding of related things.

There may be ways to get a situational modifier to our air score, such as research...

Research is more likely to allow you to make the most of your air score, than to give you a bonus.

I still say we get water next. A guy who can take a round of shotgun blasts to the face and walk away with barely a bad gash is badass. A guy who can walk into the enemy base and make them belive he's god is AWESOME.

Your abilities efficiency is governed by their related stat, so water'd make your presence power that little more effective and harder to ignore, though a point more in the ability itself would allow you to bump it up with added 'major' status, allowing it to have a more noticable impact.

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[Jabberwock]

We better head off to that gathering, after thanking and saying goodbye to Oak.

[penguify]

Oh hey, I completely forgot to respond to the last story post.

I have no exceptional objections to Jabberwock's idea, but the question is, what do we do with Joy? Bring her with us, leave her with Oak, tie her up somewhere (bad idea, what with the rat-men and those bizarre scarecrows, probably)? Because if we bring her with us, she might be recognized by a Mech-man, or just plain be difficult to drag along.

Also, do we have any knowledge of what happens when you shoot an enlightened in the head? Do they lose their memories and reset to something, or are memories stored in the soul (or similar, non-physical place)? Because I think the only way might be to shoot Joy in the head. (I don't particularly support this idea, I am just proposing it. Feel free to shoot it down, it's just a cut-the-knot idea). If it won't work, we'll either have to try waiting or drug-brainwashing, as I see it. Or brain surgery/lobotomy.

Other idea, maybe the Clockworkers removed an important part of the brain to give them the slave mentality, then coated the area with anti-regen stuff?