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[Heavenfall]

Care to share the working turtle vermin reaction that actually produces a real turtle which includes shell? Cause I've tried a lot of the product lines to try to produce a real turtle, but haven't made a real turtle yet.

Have you tried the following, Shaostoul?

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:SYNTH_RAW_FISH]
[NAME:synthesize raw turtle]
[BUILDING:SYNTHESIZER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Q]
[PRODUCT:100:1:FISH_RAW:NO_SUBTYPE:TURTLE:NONE]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]


I'm getting full metal alchemist flashbacks.

Be ye warned.

[afoninv]

Care to share the working turtle vermin reaction that actually produces a real turtle which includes shell? Cause I've tried a lot of the product lines to try to produce a real turtle, but haven't made a real turtle yet.

Have you tried the following, Shaostoul?

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:SYNTH_RAW_FISH]
[NAME:synthesize raw turtle]
[BUILDING:SYNTHESIZER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Q]
[PRODUCT:100:1:FISH_RAW:NO_SUBTYPE:TURTLE:NONE]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]


I'm getting full metal alchemist flashbacks.

Be ye warned.

Tried this now. Doesn't work (yes, it gives raw turtle, but processing it at the fishery yields no shell).

[rgon842]

Care to share the working turtle vermin reaction that actually produces a real turtle which includes shell? Cause I've tried a lot of the product lines to try to produce a real turtle, but haven't made a real turtle yet.

Have you tried the following, Shaostoul?

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:SYNTH_RAW_FISH]
[NAME:synthesize raw turtle]
[BUILDING:SYNTHESIZER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Q]
[PRODUCT:100:1:FISH_RAW:NO_SUBTYPE:TURTLE:NONE]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]


I'm getting full metal alchemist flashbacks.

Be ye warned.

Allow me to dump massive quantities of magma on the Law of Equivalent Exchange.

Tried this now. Doesn't work (yes, it gives raw turtle, but processing it at the fishery yields no shell).

I see. I always got that raw turtle, but I never got to process it because dwarves were busy on other things. Figures.

I guess the only way to reliably get shell is to add shells to an existing animal then butcher it, or (hopefully) wait until Toady expands the reaction system to allow for bone, shells, and bodyparts, like in 40d.

[Shaostoul]

Care to share the working turtle vermin reaction that actually produces a real turtle which includes shell? Cause I've tried a lot of the product lines to try to produce a real turtle, but haven't made a real turtle yet.

Have you tried the following, Shaostoul?

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:SYNTH_RAW_FISH]
[NAME:synthesize raw turtle]
[BUILDING:SYNTHESIZER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Q]
[PRODUCT:100:1:FISH_RAW:NO_SUBTYPE:TURTLE:NONE]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]


I'm getting full metal alchemist flashbacks.

Be ye warned.

Tried this now. Doesn't work (yes, it gives raw turtle, but processing it at the fishery yields no shell).

This is the exact problem I've run into with ALL vermin testing. It may make a vermin named whatever you're trying to make, but say for example you make turtle... It doesn't move like a turtle and you never get a shell. By move I mean, it moves around very quick instead of a very slow pace, like a turtle...

So reactions produce pseudo-vermin, not real vermin.

[rgon842]

Care to share the working turtle vermin reaction that actually produces a real turtle which includes shell? Cause I've tried a lot of the product lines to try to produce a real turtle, but haven't made a real turtle yet.

Have you tried the following, Shaostoul?

Code: [Select]

[REACTION:SYNTH_RAW_FISH]
[NAME:synthesize raw turtle]
[BUILDING:SYNTHESIZER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_Q]
[PRODUCT:100:1:FISH_RAW:NO_SUBTYPE:TURTLE:NONE]
[SKILL:ALCHEMY]


I'm getting full metal alchemist flashbacks.

Be ye warned.

Tried this now. Doesn't work (yes, it gives raw turtle, but processing it at the fishery yields no shell).

This is the exact problem I've run into with ALL vermin testing. It may make a vermin named whatever you're trying to make, but say for example you make turtle... It doesn't move like a turtle and you never get a shell. By move I mean, it moves around very quick instead of a very slow pace, like a turtle...

So reactions produce pseudo-vermin, not real vermin.

Not to derail the thread, but are the pseudo-vermin edible? When processed, do they yield foodstuff that can be cooked at the kitchen? And when cooked, does the material value apply the the prepared meal? (i.e. a more expensive roast.)

Back on the shell topic, what results have been obtained by adding shell to a very common material template? (STONE_TEMPLATE for example). Do mined stones fulfill the prerequisites as shells and thus get used in moods?

[Shaostoul]

shells on non-creature stuff... idno

about the foodstuff... idno either... i saw it didn't create a true vermin, so i exited.

[afoninv]

Answers on pseudo-vermin cooking:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not to derail the thread, but are the pseudo-vermin edible? When processed, do they yield foodstuff that can be cooked at the kitchen? And when cooked, does the material value apply the the prepared meal? (i.e. a more expensive roast.)

- 'raw turtle' produced by the above-stated reaction 1) does not go to food stockpile (raw fish enabled) 2) shows in Stock menu under 'raw fish' category 3) does not rot 4) can be prepared at Fishery

- 'turtle' produced at Fishery from 'raw turtle' produced by the above-stated reaction 1) does not go to food stockpile (fish enabled) 2) shows in Stock menu under 'fish' category 3) is edible 4)  can be prepared at Kitchen

- Meal prepared from 'turtle' produced at Fishery from 'raw turtle' produced by the above-stated reaction 1) goes to food stockpile 2) shows in Stock menu under 'prepared meals' category 3) is edible

Shaostoul, can I please ask you to add this info in your guide? Just not to lose it. Also, maybe you'll add some of my research on reaction_class simulation for item tokens?..

clc02, sorry for my derail