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« Reply #180 on: August 26, 2011, 12:47:32 am »

The Hollow are actually humanoid-shaped, mindless, pseudo-blobs of spiritual energy looking for souls to consume to add to their own mass, which is slowly being siphoned away by the afterlife at a constant rate.
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« Reply #181 on: August 26, 2011, 12:55:18 am »

Ah...see, I hear "The Hollow" and think of necromantically animated skin.

So maybe your spirit blobs could become...uh...Ghostwalkers or something.

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« Reply #182 on: August 26, 2011, 12:57:30 am »

Hmm....I dunno. I'll think about it when I sleep. That, and my "sapient but still monsters" problem.
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« Reply #183 on: August 26, 2011, 01:08:45 am »

If the beastie is sapient, then I'd class it as a Combatant. If it's just sentient, I'd class it as a Monster.

If anyone is confused: Sentient beings know what is "self" and what is "not-self", but are not capable of abstract thought. I'll quote a rant on the subject here:

This is a bug bear of epic proportions, mainly because it has so filtered into the media that it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to create any kind of sci-fi without making this basic elemental blunder.
The problem is that these two words do NOT mean the same thing, and the word SENTIENT is used pretty much exclusively where the word SAPIENT is required.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sentient
Summary: Sentient = Having sensation.

[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sapient[/url[]
Summary: Sapient = Having wisdom.

Now, these two seem similar, but they're very different. Virtually every life form is sentient. Basically anything that can tell that it is different from other things around it has sentience. Mice are sentient life forms because they can sense that they're being prodded and know that it is by something that is not them. They understand that object A is a worm and can be eaten, and object B is a rock and cannot. They understand that both A and B are not part of itself.
Sapient species are those capable of wise thought, typically characterised as ABSTRACT thought.
If a man and a dog go to the top of an open mine shaft, and the man drops a glass ball and a steel ball, the man can deuce from his prior experience that it is likely that the glass ball will have shattered when it hits the mine floor, whilst the steel ball will quite likely be intact. The dog cannot do so, it would only be able to perceive this if it went down the mine and saw for itself first hand. That is assuming it was capable of understanding that the steel ball and the pile of broken glass represented the same items it saw at the top, which is unlikely.
This demonstrates the essential difference between the two concepts, man has shown SAPIENCE the dog merely SENTIENCE.

Now every time I hear someone on a sci-fi film or series ask something like 'Is there any sentient life?' they would be far better asking 'Is there any sapient life?' because the chances are very good that what he's really trying to find out is if there are any creatures down there we can talk to and get stuff from. The amount of times that question gets asked and the answer is 'No' followed by the cast wandering around whilst various critters waft around is staggering.

Two mildly relevant points; sapient creatures are by definition ALSO sentient, but the reverse is most certainly not true. The reason why we have the scientific classification Homo Sapiens is simply because we are the ONLY specie on this planet capable of the kinds of abstract thought that warrants being sapient. If one day we show that dolphins or chimps are also then they would be reclassified, probably something along the lines of 'Ceta Sapiens' or, er, 'Munky Sapiens'.

It drives me batty. Hopefully after you've read this you'll become massively intolerant of this same gratuitous misuse of English and campaign vocally for the mistake to never be repeated.

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« Reply #184 on: August 26, 2011, 07:01:44 pm »

Ah...see, I hear "The Hollow" and think of necromantically animated skin.

Gotta admit, that sounds like an awesome horrorterror.

Even better if they eat people, and then... ya know.
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« Reply #185 on: August 27, 2011, 12:08:23 am »

That would be scary as hell. Blunt weapons would do nothing, and edged weapons would make it more likely to get picked up by the wind.
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« Reply #186 on: August 30, 2011, 03:20:35 pm »

Ah...see, I hear "The Hollow" and think of necromantically animated skin.

Gotta admit, that sounds like an awesome horrorterror.

Even better if they eat people, and then... ya know.
They use the insides of the person to fill out their own body and look like a normal person, but they slowly consume those insides so that they look older and more shriveled as the days go by until they're nothing but skin again?
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« Reply #187 on: August 30, 2011, 03:29:54 pm »

That, plus the emotional torment of those consumed as they are forced to kill other people, maybe even their loved ones (whatever that means).
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« Reply #188 on: August 31, 2011, 01:50:41 am »

The hollow sounds like hungry ghosts from Buddhist mythology, if you don't mind me saying. You prolly can get away with calling them the Hungry, or the Gluttons.
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« Reply #189 on: August 31, 2011, 02:55:49 am »

I will look into that, thank you, cag.
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« Reply #190 on: September 23, 2011, 12:16:53 am »

The wife's out with friends, the baby's asleep, so what to do? Work on my game, of course!

Filled in some proficiencies, filled in a couple of weapons, rearranged my monster list (sentience v sapience), and added some profession examples.

Spoiler: Profession examples. (click to show/hide)

Should I add anything to the list? I don't think that I want to define everything, but I don't want people to think that they're stuck with only these choices, either.
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« Reply #191 on: September 23, 2011, 01:00:23 am »

I have to ask something. What do those "successes" mean?

Also, doesn't seem to be any rider class, although I suppose rules for mounted combat might not be your thing.
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« Reply #192 on: September 23, 2011, 01:15:01 am »

Each time you use a Proficiency, you either succeed or fail. Succeeding at your tasks means that you (eventually) get better at them, and have to do harder work than you did before to continue growing your skill. Also, there is a proficiency dedicated to Animal Training. Mounted Combat rules have yet to be put in place, but they're in my notes...uh...somewhere.
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« Reply #193 on: September 23, 2011, 04:45:08 am »

How much is one rinta worth?
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« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2011, 05:28:27 am »

If I were a Performer, what would constitute as a success for Perform(Punnery)? Once people start groaning?
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