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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #120 on: June 19, 2010, 07:42:28 pm »

This does not seem to be a clever law.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #121 on: June 19, 2010, 07:43:10 pm »

Either that or I'm thinking way too hard about how to get away with murder.
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« Reply #122 on: June 19, 2010, 07:46:14 pm »

Where it'll become a problem is when you pretty much inevitably wind up in court.  It's amazingly hard to lie convincingly over time, especially over something as weighty as killing a person.  They'll ask all kinds of questions about how you knew each other, and take careful note of how you respond.  Prosecutors are professional dicks.
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« Reply #123 on: June 19, 2010, 07:48:37 pm »

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« Reply #124 on: June 19, 2010, 07:51:33 pm »

I don't believe there's any state in the US where it's not legal to kill someone who breaks into your house, and there are some that extend it to "are on your land at night".
Now I understand why your thief are so violent. This law is utterly idiotic.
It only encourage murder.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #125 on: June 19, 2010, 10:09:41 pm »

Wait, can't you just find someone, kill them, drag them onto your property and say it's self defence?

If the Tru Crime shows are any indication, they'll find your semen and blood all over the area, and reenact the murder and transportation proving that the corpse had to have been manhandled into the position you claimed it was in.

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I really don't want to know why your semen is all over the area.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #126 on: June 19, 2010, 10:28:48 pm »

I don't believe there's any state in the US where it's not legal to kill someone who breaks into your house, and there are some that extend it to "are on your land at night".
Now I understand why your thief are so violent. This law is utterly idiotic.
It only encourage murder.
If someone breaks into your house while you're there, that is a declaration of hostile intent, and thus killing them is self defense. As for shooting someone on your property if it's night... well, that's texas for you. A state where lethal force is an acceptable response to someone taking a swing at you.
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« Reply #127 on: June 19, 2010, 10:37:22 pm »

I really don't want to know why your semen is all over the area.

Weirdly, it never comes up in the CSI-type shows, because apparently people would freak the fuck out if anyone mentioned sexual content in a show that features dead hookers and graphic autopsies as once-an-episode plotpoints.  But American TV is packed with whole channels dedicated to documenting true crime stories, and almost inevitably they find semen everywhere.  Which in the words of Dave Chappelle, is pretty damning evidence, because you had to be at the crime scene for at least two or three minutes.
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« Reply #128 on: June 19, 2010, 11:09:59 pm »

What if you brought it along in a jar?

Aha! You can never know.
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« Reply #129 on: June 19, 2010, 11:32:32 pm »

If the Tru Crime shows are any indication, they'll find your semen and blood all over the area, and reenact the murder and transportation proving that the corpse had to have been manhandled into the position you claimed it was in.

I don't want to know why they'd find this at the scene.
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« Reply #130 on: June 19, 2010, 11:36:43 pm »

Aqizzar: There's semen splattered all over the place in CSI, especially in the earlier seasons before they had run out of murder ideas that allowed the killer the opportunity to rape the victim or their corpse. They made the blue semen light pretty mainstream, remember?
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« Reply #131 on: June 19, 2010, 11:49:08 pm »

Aqizzar: There's semen splattered all over the place in CSI, especially in the earlier seasons before they had run out of murder ideas that allowed the killer the opportunity to rape the victim or their corpse. They made the blue semen light pretty mainstream, remember?

I shouldn't have to mention that I don't watch CSI, and was basing my assumption on everything else I know about American censorship.  But yeah, blue-light semen effect.  Hint - if you ever want to sleep again, don't do that in your home, or a hotel room.
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« Reply #132 on: June 20, 2010, 12:37:16 am »

TV Crime Dramas, at least the ones that stay on the air, aren't heavily regulated. I'm actually surprised that CSI airs so close to prime time.

Criminal Minds is better, though.
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« Reply #133 on: June 20, 2010, 12:56:28 am »

Here's a legal gray area to ponder:

What if you've built a booby-trap that can only be activated by deliberate trigger?  Could you successfully argue in court that because the triggering mechanism required human interaction and intent it makes the booby-trap a weapon for purposes of self-defense law?

Like you're trapped in the bedroom and the bad guy is breaking down the door and you push the button that makes the spikes come up out of the floor ... lawyers will call it "The Dwarf Fortress Defense" ...
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #134 on: June 20, 2010, 01:12:36 am »

Here's a legal gray area to ponder:

What if you've built a booby-trap that can only be activated by deliberate trigger?  Could you successfully argue in court that because the triggering mechanism required human interaction and intent it makes the booby-trap a weapon for purposes of self-defense law?

Like you're trapped in the bedroom and the bad guy is breaking down the door and you push the button that makes the spikes come up out of the floor ... lawyers will call it "The Dwarf Fortress Defense" ...

In colorado, yes. If the Booby trap is controlled by a human, it is legal.

But it has to fit in the make my day law (which means in your home either committing a criminal act, or you have reason to suspect he might be)

And there IS no court, unless they can prove it doesn't fit under the law.

Not all states have this law. Iowa doesn't.
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