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jaked122

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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2010, 07:02:28 pm »

Creating traps in your house just about anywhere is illegal. And for good reason; imagine if you died suddenly and a relative came in to take inventory of your house. Or if police entered the house on a warrant.
Two sides of this debate.

"I have the right to protect my home by any means."

"You are potentially endangering civilians and law enforcement."


I prefer the first, but thats me. 
There can be compromise though, require trap information be filed to the local police department.  And traps be limited in lethality and placement.
so instead of having a weapons trap with 10 admantium swords in it, your weapons trap can have two silver shortswordshammers.

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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2010, 07:04:59 pm »

 Have it detect how high the intruder is, and have it swing into the back of the skull. Knock the sucker out so they won't bother you and doesn't kill law enforcement.

 Unless it beans their buddy behind them.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2010, 07:06:15 pm »

Creating traps in your house just about anywhere is illegal. And for good reason; imagine if you died suddenly and a relative came in to take inventory of your house. Or if police entered the house on a warrant.
Two sides of this debate.

"I have the right to protect my home by any means."

"You are potentially endangering civilians and law enforcement."


I prefer the first, but thats me. 
There can be compromise though, require trap information be filed to the local police department.  And traps be limited in lethality and placement.
so instead of having a weapons trap with 10 admantium swords in it, your weapons trap can have two silver shortswordshammers.
I think I'd throw some whips in with the hammers.  Might as well inflict lots of pain.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2010, 10:18:33 pm »

The only types of traps I believe you could get away with would be ones that are passive, i.e. ones that don't have a trigger. My example would be to put a sign saying "Watch your step" on the front door and windows, and having a hole in front of them. You could argue our way out of a law suit by saying they had been warned, and that you can't be held accountable for them choosing to walk into a hole, even if they were unable to see said hole because of the lighting/etc.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2010, 10:30:16 pm »

So if I had a Danger! High Voltage! sign on the stairs leading up to my house and then pumped near lethal voltage through the metal safety rail.....
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« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2010, 10:31:57 pm »

So if I had a Danger! High Voltage! sign on the stairs leading up to my house and then pumped near lethal voltage through the metal safety rail.....
That would be a mess any time a bird or squirrel landed...
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« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2010, 10:57:38 pm »

So if I had a Danger! High Voltage! sign on the stairs leading up to my house and then pumped near lethal voltage through the metal safety rail.....
That would be a mess any time a bird or squirrel landed...
They would still need to get grounded, so hopefully not too many.  Now if neighborhood stray cats/dogs decided to mark their territory, thats another story.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2010, 11:00:13 pm »

 Only electrocute the top bit, and make it too difficult to dig under the fence or bend it out of place.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2010, 04:08:18 am »

Have it detect how high the intruder is, and have it swing into the back of the skull. Knock the sucker out so they won't bother you and doesn't kill law enforcement.

 Unless it beans their buddy behind them.
Interestingly enough, blunt head trauma is both quite dangerous AND not a reliable way to induce unconsciousness. Getting hit to the back of the head MIGHT knock you out, but it might also give you permanent blindness, make you stop breathing and die, or even do nothing but hurt. If you're looking to incapacitate someone with a trap, consider a net or a pit. Or a door that takes you nowhere and automatically locks behind you.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2010, 04:14:42 pm »

Actually, I've finally began to understand the objection to traps placed in your home as opposed to, say, spiked fences, anti climb paint or a guard dog.

Difficult to climb fences and dogs discourage people from entering... traps, on the other hand, simply maim people once they're inside.

Also, if someone does need to come into your house for whatever reason, they'll just be kept out rather than seriously injured as they try to enter.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #100 on: June 19, 2010, 05:45:27 pm »

Dead men press no charges.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #101 on: June 19, 2010, 06:04:06 pm »

Have it detect how high the intruder is, and have it swing into the back of the skull. Knock the sucker out so they won't bother you and doesn't kill law enforcement.

 Unless it beans their buddy behind them.
Interestingly enough, blunt head trauma is both quite dangerous AND not a reliable way to induce unconsciousness. Getting hit to the back of the head MIGHT knock you out, but it might also give you permanent blindness, make you stop breathing and die, or even do nothing but hurt. If you're looking to incapacitate someone with a trap, consider a net or a pit. Or a door that takes you nowhere and automatically locks behind you.
But it isn;t a trap unless you have a comically oversized mallet in there somewhere.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #102 on: June 19, 2010, 06:14:39 pm »

Dead men press no charges.

But the Crown Attorney will.
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2010, 06:15:39 pm »

What is the Crown Attorney is dead too?
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Re: Homeowners CAN be sued by burglars
« Reply #104 on: June 19, 2010, 06:16:07 pm »

What if we murder everyone.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that plan.
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