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[Wimdit]

Mmmm. This is troubling. Either you've forgotten to take into account my unit production, or I am thoroughly screwed. If the latter is the case, I would like to lodge a complaint about raiding supply trains being overpowered. Seriously.

Oh, also my colonists are still listed as existing even though they've built Vesper.

[Nirur Torir]

Colonist fixed. Your complaint has been noted, but cities were nearly impossible to take down with two sides of similar strength in the prequel test.

Edit - Nope, you're right. I failed to copy your force list over.

[Cheddarius]

Nirur, I think I messed up a (b) tag somewhere, so everything after Forces is bolded. It would be great if you could fix that, thanks!

Why is Great Lactosia marked (supply depot)?

[Cheddarius]

Wimdit is supposed to have 6 Slugthrowers at Eden, but he's only listed as having 4. Was there a mistake or something?

[RAM]

I believe that I should have forces at the City at D18, though I am unable to locate such.

[Neyvn]

Shit i have gone and forgotten how to design units now...

My Patrol Drones, now that my Engines are lvl3 they should cost less right...

2/1/0/9 = 2+1+0+3 = 6 =36/2 = 18IP Right???

And Building a Bomber for a Carrier is

0/2/0/6 = 0+2+0+2 = 4 = 8IP  + 4slots = 10IP Right???

[techno65535]

Spoiler: orders (click to show/hide)

Research:
Armour: 3
Engines: 4
Weapons: 3

Production:
Valmorgen:
x2 (2/3/0/0) (5 industry) Paladin Mk.II

East Chadwick:
x4 (2/3/0/0) (5 industry) Paladin Mk.II

Lormidia:
x4 (2/3/0/0) (5 industry) Paladin Mk.II

Orders: Move the 2 Cultist Tanks loaded with the 3 Varg Missiles to F6, D6, B6 to retake the city. Launch the missiles at the fighter first, bomber second.

Launch the bomber to retrieve the captain. (First into space baby!)

Cities
G7: Valmorgen (10IP/4RP) (Resource Depot)
F4: Lormidia (7IP/6RP)
F10: East Chadwick (3IP/5RP)

Forces :
Garrison at G7 city - 1/1/0/1 Survey Team (Land)
                      2x 0/1/0/1+4C Peasant Mk. I (Land)
                      8x 2/1/0/0 Paladin Mk. I (Land)
                      2/1/0/12+4C Mid-range orbital bomber (Bomber)
                      2x 2/1/0/3+4C Cultist Tank (Land)
                      3x 1/0/0/2 Varg Missile

Status:
Remaining Research: 16 (+15)
Remaining Industry: 61 (+60) [20]

Weapons: 3
Armour: 3
Shields: 0
Engines: 4
Size: 3

Colony: 4
Industry: 3

Spoiler: Unit Designs (click to show/hide)

(2/1/0/3)+4c (11 industry) Cultist tank, average firepower on it's own, but it's fast and has the ability to carry up to two missiles for launch, making it an excellent rear-line combatant or fast strike unit.

(1/0/0/2) (2 industry) Varg missile. ((Renaming it, realized that 'Varg missile' would be a better name for it instead of 'Cultist missile'))

(2/3/0/0) (5 industry) The Paladin Mk. II is an improved design of the original Paladin city defence turret featuring a larger barrel and much improved armour.

Note to the GM. It was only ever Mayhew, not Mayhew76.

[Nirur Torir]

I believe that I should have forces at the City at D18, though I am unable to locate such.

The turn you sent me listed only a "-" for your forces at D18. Looking back, I did miss the production, so I'll add that in.

Wimdit is supposed to have 6 Slugthrowers at Eden, but he's only listed as having 4. Was there a mistake or something?

Yes. He told me to correct his turn, rather then sending in the corrected turn. Thanks for noticing this, I'll fix it. He has 6.

[RAM]

Sorry about that I was trying to be careful with that post too...

Spoiler: Blue RAM (click to show/hide)

Cities: I17, Siren
D18, Siren

Forces:
Siren:
Garrison at City I17: 3x 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land){destroyed}
Garrison at City D18: 0/1/0/4+5C 'Glittering Cloud' (Bomber){moved to C23}
                             1/1/0/1 Survey Team (Land){Moved to B6}
                      1/1/0/4+4C 'Gay Cloud' (Bomber){Moved To B6}
                      0/3/0/0 'Phoenix Egg' (Land Colonist){Colonised C23}
                      1/3/0/6 'Falling Star (Fighter){Moved to B6}

Force 1(Sea) - H16: 2x 1/1/0/1 Pretty Mermaid (Sea){destroyed}

Spoiler: Blue RAM (click to show/hide)

Research:11
No research.

Industry:
 Siren: 37
  D18: Build 1* 0/3/0/0+C(land) 'Phoenix Egg' (13=24){D18}
  D18: Build 1* 1/1/0/5+6(Bomber) 'Merry Puff' (22=2){D18}
  I17: Build 1* 1/1/0/0(Land) 'Fae Wisp' (2=0){I17}


Move:
 Siren:
  D18: 'Glittering Cloud' loads 'Phoenix Egg'
  D18: 'Gay Cloud' loads 'Survey Team'
  D18: 'Glittering Cloud' moves to B18, A17, A23, C23; unloads 'Phoenix Egg'
  C23: Phoenix egg colonises.
  D18: 'Gay Cloud' moves to B18, A17, A5, B6; unloads 'Survey Team'(or unload survey team at A5 and then move it if I cannot unload in a hostile space) Extraneous order. Loaded units will automatically attempt to get out and fight if the terrain permits, unless ordered otherwise.
  D18: 'Falling Star' moves to  B18, A17, A5, B6
  H16: Force 1 moves to I15

Forces:
Siren:
Garrison at City I17: 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land)
Garrison at City B6: 0/1/0/4+5C 'Glittering Cloud' (Bomber)
                             1/1/0/1 Survey Team (Land)
                      1/3/0/6 'Falling Star (Fighter)
Garrison at City C23: 1/1/0/4+4C 'Gay Cloud' (Bomber)

Spoiler: RAM Combat (click to show/hide)

Battle for I15 - Abcullater_2 vs RAM
Abcullater_2:
3x 2/2/0/2 Naval Attack Ship

RAM:
2x 1/1/0/1 Pretty Mermaid (Sea)

RAM forces completely destroyed.
Abcullater_2 loses 2/2/0/2 Naval Attack Ship
Remaining Abcullater_2 forces: 2x 2/2/0/2 Naval Attack Ship


Battle for Mayhew76 city at B6 - Ram vs Techno
Unguarded city captured by RAM

Battle for I17 city - Abcullater_2 vs RAM
Abcullater_2:
3x 1/0/0/4 Cruise Missile
0/1/0/4+4C Aerial Transport (Bomber)
1/1/0/1 Infantry (Land)

Ram:
3x 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land)
1x 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land) [New]

One missile destroyed by defensive fire
Two Fae Wisps destroyed by missiles.

City successfully defended.
Abcullater_2 forces completely destroyed.
RAM loses 3x 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land)
Remaining RAM forces: 1/1/0/1 Fae Wisp (Land)

Okay, I have been over it in detail and am pretty sure that I have gotten it right this time, This is just a friendly warning that my units may be reviewed to this.
Siren:
Garrison at City I17: 1/1/0/0 Fae Wisp (Land)
Garrison at City B6: 1/1/0/4+4C 'Gay Cloud' (Bomber)
                             1/1/0/1 Survey Team (Land)
                      1/3/0/6 'Falling Star (Fighter)
Garrison at City C23: 0/1/0/4+5C 'Glittering Cloud' (Bomber)
Garrison at City D18: 0/3/0/0 'Phoenix Egg' (Land Colonist)
                            1/1/0/5+6C 'Merry Puff' (Bomber)

[Cheddarius]

This is kind of petty, but it'd be nice to see the poll replaced with something informative, or even nothing (e.g. make the question/choices all blank or "lolwut" or whatnot) instead of just sitting there.

Also, last turn I had 21 research left and spent 19 research, so that leaves me with 2, and plus 18 = 20, right? And I had 102 industry, spent 94 of it, so I should have 8 left, and +132 = 140, right? But they're just the default values.

[RAM]

Propose trading Nevyn's Weapons 2 and engines three for my size limits 4, and could I get a price check on that?

I may do up an RP post for this later...

[Wimdit]

Oh good. I retract my complaint.

Damn, Cheddar, I expected you to betray me at least a turn after this. You chose Otu over me? :(

Ah well. Wouldn't have made much difference even if I had been more overtly forewarned. Can't fight you both at once.

Time to plan how I'm going to get out of this mess alive.

[Cheddarius]

Yeah, I agreed to ally with Knight in the test game. I have no such agreement with you, therefore you are fair game.

Anyway, defenders have a huge, huge advantage, even with blockading. One 2/2/0/1 tank costs you 6 industry; one 2/2/0/4 tank costs me 12. I had to invest a huge quantity of industry into a pretty pathetic fighting force. And your industry stockpile was very impressive, which made it even harder, and made a covert attack essentially necessary.

That being said, even with your stockpile, I had a very significant industry advantage, I had - and have - tons of it coming in. So yeah, you're outnumbered here.

[Nirur Torir]

My Patrol Drones, now that my Engines are lvl3 they should cost less right...
2/1/0/9 = 2+1+0+3 = 6 =36/2 = 18IP Right???

Yes, but fighters cost double, so it would be 36IP. Since I completely failed to notice that the 25IP units should have cost more, and since nobody cared enough to check the math, you get to keep the ones you already have, but cannot build more at that price.

And Building a Bomber for a Carrier is
0/2/0/6 = 0+2+0+2 = 4 = 8IP  + 4slots = 10IP Right???

A) Cargo size factors into the size limit
B) Bombers get 2 engines per point, not 3.
0/2/0/6+4C = 2+3=5. ([5+4/2]*[5+4])/4 = 15.75 x2 = 32IP.

This is kind of petty, but it'd be nice to see the poll replaced with something informative, or even nothing (e.g. make the question/choices all blank or "lolwut" or whatnot) instead of just sitting there.

Also, last turn I had 21 research left and spent 19 research, so that leaves me with 2, and plus 18 = 20, right? And I had 102 industry, spent 94 of it, so I should have 8 left, and +132 = 140, right? But they're just the default values.

Space distance then. Discuss before I set-up the poll. How many turns should it take a spacecraft with 4 engines to get from Siren to Krigg? From a planet to its moon? From Siren or Krigg to the asteroid belt's nearest large rock?

Propose trading Nevyn's Weapons 2 and engines three for my size limits 4, and could I get a price check on that?

4 points for each of you.

[Cheddarius]

For the space thing, I think it should take a turn... anything more would prolong the game. I mean, the game moves fairly fast, in terms of turns, right? So if you had it 2 turns, it would start to make the game kind of boring as you just wait around for your dudes to go places.

Also, what about my industry/research values? Did I make a mistake? It seems like I should have some more, carried over from last turn, like I said...