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[Cheddarius]

Yours is a lot shorter. Jesse should probably read yours first, then mine for clarification.

[Jesse]

Okay, I'm starting to figure this out.  Thanks for the help guys.  Now for carriers, can each point hold any type of unit?  Would my 5 unit carrier unit be able to hold a land unit, an air unit, a sea unit, etc?  Anyways, now for my turn.

Spoiler: My Turn (click to show/hide)

4 Industry
5 Research

Research
Research sea weapons level 2

-2 Research, 3 Research left

Research sea armor level 2

-2 Research, 1 Research left

Build
The Alexander
[1,1,0,1][2 Cargo Space]
A small and cheap transport, ready to mobilize men for the Motherland.

-4 Industry, 0 Industry left

Units
[The Alexander/1,1,0,1/2 Cargo Space/Siren, N4]

Tech Levels
Sea Weapons - 2
Sea Armor - 2

This all correct? 

 

[Cheddarius]

Yes, they can hold any type. And a unit with 5 points of carrier would be able to carry a unit with a size of 5 points, or one with a size of 3 points and one with 2, etc.

Generally, you don't give each unit a unique name, because you end up having tons and tons of units. You just make one type, like the P7 Provolone, and then make a bunch of them. But it's your choice.

Cargo space isn't free - otherwise, you could just make transports with a billion cargo space and carry anything you wanted. Each point of cargo space is one size point and .5 industry. So The Alexander is 1+1+2+2=6 points, and the industry cost is (industry)^(size/sizecap)=(5)^(6/4)=11 industry.

[RAM]

*lurks*

[wolfchild]

*lurks*

[Jesse]

Yes, they can hold any type. And a unit with 5 points of carrier would be able to carry a unit with a size of 5 points, or one with a size of 3 points and one with 2, etc.

Generally, you don't give each unit a unique name, because you end up having tons and tons of units. You just make one type, like the P7 Provolone, and then make a bunch of them. But it's your choice.

Cargo space isn't free - otherwise, you could just make transports with a billion cargo space and carry anything you wanted. Each point of cargo space is one size point and .5 industry. So The Alexander is 1+1+2+2=6 points, and the industry cost is (industry)^(size/sizecap)=(5)^(6/4)=11 industry.

Oh wow, I'm going to have to redo my turn then.  I'm pretty sure that my ship is only 5 points though, because engines on a sea naval unit are only 1 point, not 2. 

[Nirur Torir]

1 - Please include the unit type in (parenthesis). It reduces confusion.
2 - Sea units have 8x points to spend, as opposed to the 4x of land units.
3 - You may use technology on the turn you get it.
4 - That unit is a proper sea unit, but what Cheddarius said would hold true if it was a land unit.

[Cheddarius]

Ah, I thought it was a land unit. I think you're supposed to label units like The Alexander (sea) so people can tell the difference, like Nirur said.
In any case, here's the calculation: 1 attack + 1 armor + 1 engines + 2 carrying capacity = 5 points = 4 industry. Pretty simple. But what's the point of 2 carrying capacity? You can't put anything on that. Maybe a missile, but you don't need missiles yet, and certainly not missiles as weak as 2 or 1 carrying capacity. Here are some uses for carrying capacity:
1. Transporting missiles.
2. Transporting aircraft, which need to be refueled every other turn.
3. Transporting a slow, heavy unit very quickly. Expensive.
4. Being awesome, e.g. in the example game when I built two massive Ragusano Island Fortress aircraft carriers to launch three bombers each, which then flew over the target city and dropped battleships on it. Ah, yes, what a day that was.

[Nirur Torir]

1/0/0/0 missiles are possible, for a cost of 2 industry each.

Regarding the transport of particularly large units, land or air units only may be "broken up" and transported in multiple transports, but they'll suffer a decrease in their maximum armor. This is repairable by paying industry to refit them. (Instead of being able to drag damaged tanks and equipment off of the battlefield, new ones must be manufactured.)

[Cheddarius]

Yeah, but hardly anybody would ever use 1/0/0/0 missiles, seriously. They are only applicable in certain extremely specific situations, not this one.

Where are the rules/mechanics for breaking up?

[Nirur Torir]

(1/0/0/0 missiles are only possible for use just before or just after combat, against units in the same hex.)

Breaking up units for transport: Multiple transports will essentially merge their transport capacity. They MUST remain in the same hex, and unload at the same time. The armor penalty for a sinking transport will be based on how much of the unit is being carried by that transport. At least one point of armor must go to each transport (So a 5/1/0/1 unit must be on one transport, and one transport only.)

You do not get to choose how much of each unit is on each transport. The unit must unload before switching transports.

[Jesse]

Spoiler: Turn (click to show/hide)

4 Industry
5 Research

Research land weapons 2 and land armor 2

Build nothing

No units

Current tech tree
    land weapons 2
    land armor 2

4 Industry
1 Research

All good? 

[Nirur Torir]

That's fine.

Attention: Due to popular demand, I'm simplifying the research system, grouping all related technologies. No changes are needed to the turns that have already been submitted.

[x2yzh9]

I'm gonna drop out guys, I just can't do this-Very sorry.

[Nirur Torir]

If you're sure, then I'll open your slot up to replacement by one of the spectators. I'll let the replacement choose from either taking your slot, as it is now, or getting a city cite picked by Random.org and potentially moved by me if I don't like it.