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Siren-ish with limited space age

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Total Members Voted: 5

[Nirur Torir]

Sorry, fixed.

[techno65535]

I vote for something between moderate and big. 2 or 3 turns to get between the 2 main planets. Just put them on opposite sides of the star. 1-2 turns to get between the planet and it's moons. Maybe 1 turn for the closer moon and 2 for the further one? Thus 1 turn between moons.

Why have it like this? Would give time for others to ambush convoys and the like.

[Nirur Torir]

Note that there will be no planetary movement, as I am lazy.
I considered making movement use pseudo-Newtonian physics, using acceleration and deceleration, but marked it off as not adding anything and involving too much work all around. So, one engine point will just equate to one hex moved.

The system generally looks like this, going from inner to outer:
Alpha Centauri (star)
Small moon-sized planet
Krigg
Siren
 Siren's Moon
Pair of small moon sized planets (Think Pluto/Charon)
8 large asteroids, spaced fairly evenly.

[techno65535]

Huh, for some reason I thought each planet had 2 moons. Still say that the main planets should be opposite the star from each other.

[RAM]

How about 1 move to leave a planet and 1 move to arrive at a planet, that would mean 2 or three moves to get to a moon without saying that moons are in the same order of magnitude of distance that planets are.

Consider having space vessels move with a reduced rate, they could be unwieldy near objects and space distances should be much larger, and/or have space hexes count as multiple movement hexes. This would let you cut down on map dimensions.

As technology and resources increase, engine speeds will too. I would expect speed 10 or 12 space vessels fairly soon, I would want about 20 movement to some of the more remote locations...

Given that a space vessel can protect an entire planet from the space map, they should probably be more expensive then planetary craft with the same armament...

How will satellites be handled? will it be possible to have space vessels with no movement?

[Nirur Torir]

How about 1 move to leave a planet and 1 move to arrive at a planet, that would mean 2 or three moves to get to a moon without saying that moons are in the same order of magnitude of distance that planets are.

Consider having space vessels move with a reduced rate, they could be unwieldy near objects and space distances should be much larger, and/or have space hexes count as multiple movement hexes. This would let you cut down on map dimensions.

As technology and resources increase, engine speeds will too. I would expect speed 10 or 12 space vessels fairly soon, I would want about 20 movement to some of the more remote locations...

Given that a space vessel can protect an entire planet from the space map, they should probably be more expensive then planetary craft with the same armament...

How will satellites be handled? will it be possible to have space vessels with no movement?

Note that I have not yet decided on the costs for space units, and they will have different technologies. They will not be using whatever other technology you've got, although the early weapons/armor/shields will need to be cheap, otherwise fighters/bombers will hopelessly outmatch them.
I sorta like the idea of space units being more expensive, in addition to being bigger. Perhaps a 1.5x IP cost. Opinions?
Satellites would be engine-less spacecraft, dropped by anything able to carry it. Space technology is still required for them, because otherwise you'd all have satellites and be raining death on each other.

[Cheddarius]

1.5x IP sounds pretty good.

[Neyvn]

I get to use the Sizelimiter that RAM is sending over for this turn itself right? Meaning that I now can divide by 4 on construction...
If so Math Error...

Yes, but fighters cost double, so it would be 36IP. Since I completely failed to notice that the 25IP units should have cost more, and since nobody cared enough to check the math, you get to keep the ones you already have, but cannot build more at that price.

2/1/0/9 = 2+1+3=6, 6^2/4 = 9*2 = 18IP 

A) Cargo size factors into the size limit
B) Bombers get 2 engines per point, not 3.
0/2/0/6+4C = 2+3=5. ([5+4/2]*[5+4])/4 = 15.75 x2 = 32IP.

([5+4/2]*[5+4])/4 =/= 15.75.

(5+4/2 = 4.5) * (5+4 = 9) = 40.5/4 = 10.125*2 = 20.25IP Rounded Up 21IP

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

DIPLOMACY//
Accept RAMs offer of Sizelimiter for Engines/Weapons.

RESEARCH//
Total Starting Research - Neatherport 4RP, Gamma Station 7RP = 11RP

Trade Engines 3 > RAM - 1RP
Trade Weapons 2 > RAM - 1RP
Receive Sizelimiter 4 < RAM - 2RP
Research Sizelimiter 3 - 4RP
Research Armour 3 - 3RP

INDUSTRY//
Total Starting Industry - Netherport 10IP, Gamma 2IP = 12IPx3 = 36IP
Produce Unit - Airnode, Bomber Design, 0/2/0/6+4C - AWAITING CALCULATION VERIFICATION

ORDERS//
Tile K19, Siren > Tile M19, Siren > Colonize Netherstation Alpha
  Colonist 0/3/0/1 (Land)


CITIES//
Talkido Neather Port - H20, Siren (4RP/10IP) (Resource Depot)
Neatherstation Gammer - K22, Siren (7RP/2IP)
Neatherstation Alpha - M19, Siren (Underconstruction)

FORCES//
Talkido Neather Port - H20, Siren
  Sight Drone - 1/1/0/1 (Land)
  Patrol Drone - 2/1/0/9 (Fighter)
  Patrol Drone - 2/1/0/9 (Fighter)
  Patrol Drone - 2/1/0/9 (Fighter)

Force 1 - K19, Siren > M19, Siren > Colonize Netherstation Alpha:
  Colonist 0/3/0/1 (Land)

STATUS//
Remaining Industry: 41 (+36) [12]
Remaining Research: 0 (+11)

Weapons 2 > 3
Armor 2 > 3
Shields 0
Engines 3

Size Limits 2 > 3 > 4
Colony Limits 3
Industry 3

[RAM]

Pink is listed as building 2 bombers, which I do not see in the forces display.

White is listed as building 3*1/0/0/2 missiles, which do not seem to appear in the forces display, there are, however, 3*2/1/0/3 missiles that seem to be unexplained.

[Nirur Torir]

Sometimes people submit improper turns, not listing their units properly. Errors occur.
The missiles were there, but unlisted. I had to go back several turns to find this out, it may have been my fault.
I'll fix the turns tomorrow. I'm a bit too tired to sort through turns right now.

Note to self: Fix turns.

[RAM]

Note to self: submit turn.

[Cheddarius]

Who do we still need?

[Knight Otu]

Me, for one, but not for long.

"The extreme surface of Krigg necessitated new paths in vehicle design, and one day I was sighting some of the proposed designs. A few engineers took the concept of a all-terrain walker and ran with it. Thankfully, they did not prevail against the voices who opposed putting two or more tree-sized weak spots onto combat vehicles. A more promising design was a multi-tracked vehicle composed of a few semi-autonomous modules that could easily compensate for each other called the Winder for its locomotion. The engineer also had proposed mobile crew seats to follow gravity in case of gross driver error, but early tests showed that the drivers took this even worse than the alternative, and that it would grant no advantages in a combat situation. Further tests with remote control and other means of piloting were quickly scheduled." - Ander Samuels, Planetfall Observations

[Cheddarius]

Tick-tock, Clarice...

[Neyvn]

I still need someone to confirm the correct maths needed for the crafts I am building...