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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3781067 times)

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« Reply #47550 on: December 12, 2014, 08:49:10 pm »

Starting to see the "I don't buy into your commercial attitudes, maaan" vibe that pops up around the Christmas season. And it's always, always rich kids that say this shit. Live below the poverty line for a while and THEN tell me how much it sucks to receive gifts just for the sake of existing and having a family that loves you.

You can sit around dour-faced protesting whatever the fuck all you want on Christmas Day, just leave me alone and be careful not to hurt yourself with all that edginess. I'll be over here enjoying my holiday.

And then there's the people who are convinced that Christmas is actually dying. Have any of these fuckers been inside a Wal-Mart recently, or even peeked inside of one?
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« Reply #47551 on: December 12, 2014, 08:57:08 pm »

... y'know, probably the most vocal anti-christmas person on the forums was homeless a significant portion of their life, right? It's far from rich folks only, or... whatever that is.

I've actually been below poverty line myself a fair bit. Like, family and togetherness and whatnot is great, but please don't spend food money on me. Gifts are nice, too, but not when someone has to go hungry to afford them :-\
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« Reply #47552 on: December 12, 2014, 08:58:53 pm »

I'd think Christmas would suck if you're below the poverty line, ESPECIALLY as a parent.  Who wants to pick between buying their kids presents and buying necessities?
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« Reply #47553 on: December 12, 2014, 08:59:54 pm »

Am I missing something? I do not see what is so special about this type of solitaire.

Also, he's still being a dick. All of the boxes were brought up. There's little space, and we don't have anywhere to put the bags. He's barking at us, telling us to continue bringing things up, and where to put things, then bitching about where things were put, even though he ordered us to put them like they were in the first place.

I'm imagining him barking like a dog at you and your mom, lol XD
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« Reply #47554 on: December 12, 2014, 09:00:52 pm »

... y'know, probably the most vocal anti-christmas person on the forums was homeless a significant portion of their life, right? It's far from rich folks only, or... whatever that is.

I've actually been below poverty line myself a fair bit. Like, family and togetherness and whatnot is great, but please don't spend food money on me. Gifts are nice, too, but not when someone has to go hungry to afford them :-\
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« Reply #47555 on: December 12, 2014, 09:03:30 pm »

Counterpoint: As a person who has been ridiculously poor most of my life, I find the enormous pressure toward gift-giving around this time to be completely fucking unwarranted. The idea that I need to show affection for others, or they for me, by spending money dearly earned and of much more use elsewhere to be damaging and useless. It layers stress on stress and drains peoples' cash reserves. Want to give gifts? Fine! Awesome. But don't spend a solid month telling me I'm a terrible person for not straining my meager paycheck in mindless genuflection to the capitalist clusterfuck you call a holiday.

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« Reply #47556 on: December 12, 2014, 09:04:30 pm »

... y'know, probably the most vocal anti-christmas person on the forums was homeless a significant portion of their life, right? It's far from rich folks only, or... whatever that is.

Actually, I didn't know. I've never really seen posts about Christmas on the forums at all. I barely know about anyone on here, except what's posted in the threads I frequent.

Like, family and togetherness and whatnot is great, but please don't spend food money on me. Gifts are nice, too, but not when someone has to go hungry to afford them :-\

I'd think Christmas would suck if you're below the poverty line, ESPECIALLY as a parent.  Who wants to pick between buying their kids presents and buying necessities?

That's not the situation I was implying. Gifts have always been little things in my family. Art and craft supplies, a jacket I really liked, maybe a game if the year turned out really well, and I was fine with that. I got the idea that money was limited from a young age, and I was glad for what we did manage to scrape together.

But don't spend a solid month telling me I'm a terrible person for not straining my meager paycheck in mindless genuflection to the capitalist clusterfuck you call a holiday.

I have never heard of this happening. Does this actually happen?
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« Reply #47557 on: December 12, 2014, 09:06:48 pm »

It actually happens, yes. You can see some fairly significant social snobbing towards people who don't or can't give gifts, in some places.
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« Reply #47558 on: December 12, 2014, 09:11:29 pm »

...yeah, sorry, came on a bit strong there. I live in the american Midwest, and for the last month and a half it's been everywhere. "Have you gotten your shopping done yet?" is a fairly common conversation topic, and there's always a bit of a pause and an "...oh. OK." When I tell people I really can't afford it. Plus it seems like half my coworkers are borrowing money from friends and relatives to shop, and in one instance taking out payday loans, which.... this time of year makes me angry.
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« Reply #47559 on: December 12, 2014, 09:15:50 pm »

Maximum pedantry engaged! I have now seriously sent off an email asking if the appearance of the letter "p" in the exam is a typo, or a diabolical bluff, because if it's intended the court in question ceased to exist 40 years before the date of the case.
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« Reply #47560 on: December 12, 2014, 09:42:41 pm »

Yo. Anti-christmas here. I've told people and told people not to waste money on me for christmas because we don't have it to waste. They don't listen, and wonder why I get pissy about it. I've never lived above the poverty line. Ever. Many christmases were filled with cheap chocolates and last season's clearance toys so that we'd have stuff to open. We were so far below the poverty line at some points that heat, water and electricity were intermittent throughout the holidays depending on what bills my parents could pay. The insides of my bedroom windows frosted over almost every night. We wore wet clothes to school that would partially freeze because we couldn't dry them after they got washed. They would just hang around the house and we'd hope they'd dry, and they wouldn't because it was too cold. My dad would skip taking his already meager lunch (two ham and cheese sandwiches and a coke,) to his barely above minimum wage factory job to buy us presents for the holidays, and he'd still get chewed out by his coworkers when it was time to talk about presents.

What pisses me off the most about the season is seeing people who know they don't have enough throw huge amounts of cash they should be buying necessities around to buy shit they don't need because they were told to. I don't like the holiday because a) I'm not religious (pretty well known that I'm extremely anti-organized religion,) so the sudden jolt of religious fervor in general society irritates me, even if it is mostly lip service, and b) huge corporations get extremely pushy about how you have to buy EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW because that's the real American way. To top it all off, the weather is cold as balls, and as I've said elsewhere, that's 100% misery for me. (Not to mention sleeping in a truck or in an uninsulated hay-loft in below-freezing weather. Or being kicked out of a soup kitchen line for not being religious. Not exactly good holiday memories.)

Wanna know the worst part of all of it? Everyone tells you that you have to be happy all the time. They don't ask, they tell. It is a societal demand that you feel a certain way and if you don't you're a horrible person and deserve scorn and derision. You have to be happy for the after-Halloween shopping season, you have to be happy for family that you don't go out of your way to see, you have to be happy for the off-key drunk door to door carolers, you have to be happy for kids who want everything under the sun because they don't know better and we actively lie to them and you can't stop people from lying to them, (is that you, Santa Claus?) You have to be happy about the miserable weather, the sudden lunacy that crops up, the pseudo-religious rituals (and yet I have a tree in my living room. Trees don't belong indoors,) and the vast quantity of waste. We waste huge quantities of electricity on extra festive lights, huge quantities of money on things we don't really need, and swathes of time doing things that aren't normally part of the plan. Don't even get me started on bows and wrapping paper.

Look, I like getting presents as much as everyone else, but the money could be better spent elsewhere. Save it for something important, like an emergency, or pay the damn bills. I really, really wish I could just opt out, but my own family refuses to understand, so I can't. Instead, I get belittled with "scrooge" and "grinch" nicknames that they think is cute. I frequently get told at work (this is holiday season seven in retail,) that I shouldn't look so sour, it's christmastime, cheer up. Maybe I am 2edgy4u, and maybe I'm just a curmudgeonly old jerk. The holiday doesn't represent anything to me but a sudden grip of madness that sweeps the land and refuses to let go until it changes years. I dread everything about it every year, and every year it's always "christmas is good, why can't you just be happy?"

tl;dr: Bah humbug, fuckers.
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« Reply #47561 on: December 12, 2014, 09:58:06 pm »

Also anti-christmas. People insist on spending money on me they can't afford to waste. I don't feel as bad about taking money from my well-off father (though that brings up other issues), but just about everyone else who tries to Christmas me is working class or living off Social Security. And I, being a student, don't have much to waste myself but am also too old to ask anybody for money to use on gifts. Not to mention if there is a social convention that I can't complete successfully, it's gifts. Both receiving and giving them make me feel horribly anxious.

The whole process is bad, just bad.
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« Reply #47562 on: December 12, 2014, 10:20:01 pm »

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

MY FUCKING TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH.

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« Reply #47563 on: December 12, 2014, 10:22:22 pm »

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

MY FUCKING TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH.
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« Reply #47564 on: December 12, 2014, 10:35:43 pm »

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AAAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhey it's starting to die down thank christ
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