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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3701241 times)

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46905 on: November 26, 2014, 04:15:14 pm »

Argh. I got used to staying up to 1:30, but I want to go to a lecture at 8 AM. It's too late to start doing anything fun, but too early to actually go to sleep yet. Boredom intensifies.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46906 on: November 26, 2014, 04:26:10 pm »

hey speaking of the post title

Riot said that Dota had "burden of knowledge" and that they don't want that

meanwhile in League of Legends you have two choices to see what a champion actually does:

1. buy them and play them in a game, all the way through, and make sure to use every ability to see the cooldowns, and also pay attention to stats and item builds
2. google it

Compared to DotA:

1. Play them in a game, probably a bot game if you really have no idea, and read the guides that the game gives you access to in-game that also give you item and ability build guidance, as well as seeing their stats and what the stats mean
2. Click on them while playing (even if you're not playing them) and read their ability descriptions, which includes cooldown and scaling for all levels, plus their current stats (and you can still see stat growth and stuff, of course, plus all the items they have)
3. Watch a replay containing the hero and read said descriptions to understand not just what they do but why; League doesn't even have replays despite Riot promising them since the game was in beta
4. google it

But that's just more of Riot being hypocritical.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 04:28:13 pm by Putnam »
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« Reply #46907 on: November 26, 2014, 04:34:29 pm »

uuugh

knowledge: such a fucking burden
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46908 on: November 26, 2014, 05:01:53 pm »

The American Wild West is actually in Italy.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46909 on: November 26, 2014, 05:10:40 pm »

The Italians are apparently invading. This makes me angry.

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46910 on: November 26, 2014, 05:11:19 pm »

hey speaking of the post title

Riot said that Dota had "burden of knowledge" and that they don't want that

meanwhile in League of Legends you have two choices to see what a champion actually does:

1. buy them and play them in a game, all the way through, and make sure to use every ability to see the cooldowns, and also pay attention to stats and item builds
2. google it

Compared to DotA:

1. Play them in a game, probably a bot game if you really have no idea, and read the guides that the game gives you access to in-game that also give you item and ability build guidance, as well as seeing their stats and what the stats mean
2. Click on them while playing (even if you're not playing them) and read their ability descriptions, which includes cooldown and scaling for all levels, plus their current stats (and you can still see stat growth and stuff, of course, plus all the items they have)
3. Watch a replay containing the hero and read said descriptions to understand not just what they do but why; League doesn't even have replays despite Riot promising them since the game was in beta
4. google it

But that's just more of Riot being hypocritical.

3. Check their profile to see what sort of roles they're listed as filling, read what their different abilities do, and watch the integrated videos of the abilities in use, then check the tips for them.
4. Play them when they're up in the free-week rotation.

Seriously, I get that you love the frothing rage about everything Riot does, but at least go for the valid complaints instead of misrepresenting things. The sole greatest issue with champion transparency is that you don't get access to the full tooltip for each ability until you play a champion, and that the scaling ratios aren't visible in-game. That's something worth complaining about, because it's bloody stupid to not include it. Or, for that matter, a full listing of champion stats outside of matches.

I do like how you're pretending that free rotation and practice matches vs. bots don't exist.
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« Reply #46911 on: November 27, 2014, 12:08:54 am »

Mostly because free rotations aren't even remotely a solution? You only have, what, 1/6 chance to get to play a champion in any given week?

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« Reply #46912 on: November 27, 2014, 12:21:35 am »

Mostly because free rotations aren't even remotely a solution? You only have, what, 1/6 chance to get to play a champion in any given week?

Less. You might not get rare and underplayed champions in months. Which is definitely something I disagree with. This champion isn't getting played that much. Obvious solution is give people less opportunities to learn them. Logic. On the other hand, it does satisfy my inner hipster to use uncommon choices. So silver copper soap lining?
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« Reply #46913 on: November 27, 2014, 12:23:34 am »

Yeah, sorry, my math was wonky, I mean to say "1/12". For some reason I thought it was a 20 hero rotation or something in my math? I don't know, I doubled or halved something erroneously along the line.

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« Reply #46914 on: November 27, 2014, 04:40:16 am »

My project was marked externally, apparently, and the rest of the class also got weird marks. I don't know if the marker just ticked random boxes on the mark sheet or what.

Whatever the case, I get to spend my first afternoon after exams querying literally every other section of marking.
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« Reply #46915 on: November 27, 2014, 03:18:17 pm »

UPlay is a stupid piece of shit.
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« Reply #46916 on: November 27, 2014, 04:42:05 pm »

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: MOBA me? I MOBA you! Edition
« Reply #46917 on: November 27, 2014, 06:04:58 pm »

Yeah, P. much.
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« Reply #46918 on: November 27, 2014, 06:07:21 pm »

From my understanding, pretty much all DRM including Steam is a PoS
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« Reply #46919 on: November 27, 2014, 06:16:51 pm »

Mostly because free rotations aren't even remotely a solution? You only have, what, 1/6 chance to get to play a champion in any given week?

Less. You might not get rare and underplayed champions in months. Which is definitely something I disagree with. This champion isn't getting played that much. Obvious solution is give people less opportunities to learn them. Logic. On the other hand, it does satisfy my inner hipster to use uncommon choices. So silver copper soap lining?

I guarantee you if putting rare champions on free week increased their popularity significantly, they'd do it all the time. You can only buy a champion once, so introducing people to less popular champions gives you more potential sales.

I do think there's no excuse the champion rotation isn't 15 or 20 by now.
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