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[Playergamer]

Ruined is probably bad wording, but they tore the guy up because of his shirt.

Don't want to talk about this small moment of rage any more. Have a sloth.

[nenjin]

I just want to say that I love the word "shitlords."

[smirk]

Sexism is sexism, and needs to be pointed out when it shows up, but I do feel bad for the guy. ESA is probably gonna need to hire a public relations trainer/organizer for future media things.

Have a sloth.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[EnigmaticHat]

Funny how he apologized and everyone moved on... except for those with an anti-feminist axe to grind.

Like, it is annoying how these things can draw the overwhelming focus away from accomplishments but it wouldn't even be a problem if people could take criticism and move on without an anti-feminist horde turning a few snide comments into a war.

vocal shitlords = feminism

being against vocal shitlords = being against feminism

thank you, i'll jolt that one down

That is not NEARLY what glowcat said.

[Tiruin]

Funny how he apologized and everyone moved on... except for those with an anti-feminist axe to grind.

Like, it is annoying how these things can draw the overwhelming focus away from accomplishments but it wouldn't even be a problem if people could take criticism and move on without an anti-feminist horde turning a few snide comments into a war.

vocal shitlords = feminism

being against vocal shitlords = being against feminism

thank you, i'll jolt that one down

That is not NEARLY what glowcat said.

* Tiruin boops LSP in the elbow.

You don't want to be like those who misconstrue words for their own purposes :<
That isn't what Glowcat said.
...Nor is that what feminism truly is. (just what the negatively vocal and immature side is...and negativity speaks a ton louder here)

[Playergamer]

(Sorry, lied.) No one's talking about what feminism truly is. We're talking about the negatively vocal and immature feminists. The problem is, according to LSP, Glowcat is saying people grinding an axe against the vocal s**tlords is grinding an axe against feminists.

[Orange Wizard]

The problem, really, is that feminism is really toxic. As in, both sides. People are really just whiny bitches on both sides of the argument and I really don't give a sod about the whole thing.

What I don't like, though, are people who run around calling things sexist for no adequately justified reason.

Like this:

Sexism is sexism, and needs to be pointed out when it shows up, but I do feel bad for the guy. ESA is probably gonna need to hire a public relations trainer/organizer for future media things.

I fail to see how a shirt with (by many accounts, quite tasteful) pictures of women on it is sexist.

[Blargityblarg]

Sexism is sexism, and needs to be pointed out when it shows up, but I do feel bad for the guy. ESA is probably gonna need to hire a public relations trainer/organizer for future media things.

I fail to see how a shirt with (by many accounts, quite tasteful) pictures of women on it is sexist.

You'd describe that shirt as 'tasteful'? In a working & speaking-to-the-media environment?

[Dutchling]

I assume this is the shirt you guys are talking about?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Other than it being rather ugly, and clearly not something you wear in a work/media environment, I don't really see the problem.

[Tiruin]

The problem, really, is that feminism is really toxic. As in, both sides. People are really just whiny bitches on both sides of the argument and I really don't give a sod about the whole thing.

What I don't like, though, are people who run around calling things sexist for no adequately justified reason.

Err...you're talking about context which makes feminism toxic :V
In reality, and during its origin, it wasn't toxic at all.
Specify, Mr. Wizard :I
It ain't nice to generalize arguments when points have merit.

...Though considering this case? It's just a shirt.
And people make sooooooooo many unwarranted assumptions.
So. Many. BAD. Assumptions.

On that note, those are spiffy eyeglasses.


Rage: Net.
Network connection that is. Ghaaaaa.

[Orange Wizard]

In reality, and during its origin, it wasn't toxic at all.
Specify, Mr. Wizard :I
It ain't nice to generalize arguments when points have merit.

The issue being that during its origin, feminism was a very different thing, and now is largely irrelevant. I also see no points with merit posed.

...

You'd describe that shirt as 'tasteful'? In a working & speaking-to-the-media environment?

"Tasteful" meaning "not porn". Not really the best choice of words. If it were porn I could see people complaining, but again... not really sexism.

...

Anyway, we should probably end this derail before someone gets into too much trouble with words.

[Tiruin]

Spoiler: edited (click to show/hide)

In reality, and during its origin, it wasn't toxic at all.
Specify, Mr. Wizard :I
It ain't nice to generalize arguments when points have merit.

The issue being that during its origin, feminism was a very different thing, and now is largely irrelevant. I also see no points with merit posed.

Err, that the term would be really unwise to use because its rather a guise and not actually feminism (originally)?
Also it still has relevance :v There is still a gender gap (and in culture of wage, jobs and such...), but its quite significantly lesser than how it was before.

Jumping to extremes however, you'd note the toxicity comes from...well, not exactly the original feminism
Just what makes it different, so to say.


...Also derail ended. Yeah, sorry ._. Didn't see the origin of the derail

Err...relevance...um.
The idea of the stuff in this link makes me rage, if true down to the very word.

[Blargityblarg]

"Tasteful" meaning "not porn". Not really the best choice of words. If it were porn I could see people complaining, but again... not really sexism.

Mate, you're... not the person who decides what is and is not sexism.

[Skyrunner]

I keep biting the same place on the inside of my lip over and over and over again and it really hurts. It's also bleeding. And I can't really do much about it, it's how my mouth is currently shaped (I have braces).

[Dutchling]

I suggest sleeping with a fan in your room.

(I assume you already tried doing the handstand)