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[10ebbor10]

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_changing_education_paradigms

[Bauglir]

Yeah, no, I wasn't kidding when I said earlier that primary school is more about obedience than learning. I was in the standard boat here, although I made it halfway through my degree before I started caring, and I didn't ever really grasp how much I like learning until about a year after I graduated (and, uh, thank you Vector for inadvertently making me figure that out). But obedience is what they're good at motivating, because if you do what you're told they generally leave you alone and let you waste your time however you want, provided you can manage a C average. And when you're in an environment that works very hard to make that the easiest source of pleasure, you get very good at it.

[Lightningfalcon]

So, since I feel like complaining about my homework and everyone here is already doing so-
My statistics teachers gives us homework every day.  Even when the homework isn't productive.  At the begining of the year she had us take an online quiz.  Yesterday she had us take us again.  Except now we have to write down our "Work" for the problems.  Not just the problems where you might need to multiply a number by 1.5, which is the extent of the math involved.  No, even if a problem is purely recall based, we have to put down our "Thoughts" while doing that problem. 

[Iceblaster]

Spoiler: First World Problems (click to show/hide)

I have to do some catch up tests today.

I decided, hey, it's only nine fifty, I can fit a round of 10x tf2 in before anything goes wrong. But of course, as soon as it loads up, I get told to not get involved in a game blah blah tests.

I of course quit out and go to the kitchen where all the stuff was aaaand brother's watching a half hour ish show. Of course, he has tests to, but for some reason, he gets to watch an entire half hour of a show, but I am unable to play tf2 for ten-fifteen minutes at most.

Aaand the school stuff?

I dunno, maybe it's just a quirk of mine, but while I like freedom of choice, as homeschool would allow, I much preferred a public school's schedule if only to give a clear outline of the day's events.

Fake edit: I just realized that's irrelevant to the conversation.

Meh.

I'm half asleep anyway. Can't be bad at all!

[MaximumZero]

I'd love to homeschool my kids. I work retail, though, and that provides zero stability in scheduling.

[Frumple]

... yeah, don't get me wrong, public schooling has its (pretty damn big) problems, but I'd still state without hesitation that it's a massive goddamn improvement over anything else we've tried, on a societal level. It can screw with the fringes pretty hard, and it's far from optimal at teaching the majority, but it does well enough for enough folks that go through it that the net benefit is ridiculously positive. And I haven't actually seen a proposition for a better system that isn't blatantly bugfuck insane*. S'just... stateside, at least, schools need more and better used money (especially the latter), more and better trained teachers, and a hefty dollop of additional flexibility in their everything -- scheduling, teaching style, materials, and so on. There are folks fighting for all of that, but it's slow going with a lot of resistance

*Like transitioning to more private schools, which hard fucks the poor and are notoriously shitty and/or corrupt in a lot of ways beside, or anything that isn't, well, mandatory public education -- apprentice systems (massively inefficient and inconsistent at scale), more homeschooling (most parents can't afford the time), ad-hoc creche systems (public schools are already those), etc., so forth, so on.

[scriver]

As the Blue Train put it back in the 70's sometimes:

Skolan gör ju som sig bör
Å skolar arbetskraften
Om kvastarna ska sopa bra får man inte slarva med skaften

[nenjin]

As the Blue Train put it back in the 70's sometimes:

Skolan gör ju som sig bör
Å skolar arbetskraften
Om kvastarna ska sopa bra får man inte slarva med skaften

Mmm, yes, quite.

[Dutchling]

As the Blue Train put it back in the 70's sometimes:

börk börk börk börk börk börk
börk börk arbeidskrachten
börk börk börk börk börk börk börk börk börk börk börk

Couldn't agree more.

[Frumple]

... is börk your language's equivalent of choo-choo or somethin'? The sound a train makes?

[Dutchling]

Nah that's just what Swedish sounds like.

[timferius]

I was going to link a Swedish Chef video for reference, but how can I choose just one?

[Akura]

Why was yesterday so hot? Even worse, the air conditioner burned out at work. It got so hot that the skin under my beard got so inflamed that it felt like it was on fire. That's never happened before, at least not as bad as that. I did finish the day like a true dwarf: continuing my work, and going hauling around the food and drink stocks while ignoring the fact that my face was on fire.

[KingofstarrySkies]

Why was yesterday so hot? Even worse, the air conditioner burned out at work. It got so hot that the skin under my beard got so inflamed that it felt like it was on fire. That's never happened before, at least not as bad as that. I did finish the day like a true dwarf: continuing my work, and going hauling around the food and drink stocks while ignoring the fact that my face was on fire.

My school has no air conditioning.

Yesterday felt like I was melting.

[scrdest]

Nah that's just what Swedish sounds like.

No, that's just how Swedish LOOKS. Damn thing doesn't sound nowhere near as it looks.