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[nenjin]

It's cheerful children's writing, interspersed with some dark but not super detailed villains and plot movements. The books get slightly more adult around Mariel of Redwall.....but I don't think I've ever considered those anything but children/young adult fantasy. I mean...just based on the fact some of the most words in those stories are devoted to what people eat, and they don't eat meat...has always been a sign to me of what Jacques thought was appropriate for kids.

Watership Down, on the other hand...

[Frumple]

Think the statement being made was, if one was after a low/no magic fantasy setting for a younger audience, Obj would prefer redwall over the hobbit.

Not really sure where I'd stand on that one. Redwall stuff gets pretty goddamn brutal (i.e., I'd actually recommend it for an older audience than I would the Hobbit), iirc, and there was like a metric crapton of the things, whereas the Hobbit was, well. One book. Compared to at least a dozen (Actually, looked it up. Twenty frikkin' two. Also two picture books!).

Buncha' the redwall stuff was pretty good reading, though. Also nice. Have re-read the hobbit more times than I've read individual redwall books, but I wouldn't crap on either of them.

... I've only read like maybe six or seven of the redwall books, though, and I think all of that pre-2000. Didn't quite realize there were so bloody many of them nowadays.

[Flying Dice]

Watership Down isn't a children's story, unless you're a trollish Blockbuster employee willing to traumatize children with the film adaption for the sake of getting one over on a lazy parent.

[nenjin]

Nah, I wouldn't crap on either myself, they're both good series/books. The two adult themes I remember most from Redwall are slavery and "reckt hero crawling across the ground refusing to give up." Both the Hobbit and Redwall have decent body counts in them, and I do think Redwall starts faster in that regard.

Watership Down isn't a children's story, unless you're a trollish Blockbuster employee willing to traumatize children with the film adaption for the sake of getting one over on a lazy parent.

[Arx]

Redwall stuff gets pretty goddamn brutal

I actually stopped reading them (when I was much younger) because I came across a fairly graphic description of a pirate captain decapitating a crewmember (I think it was in Bellmaker). I wouldn't really recommend them as kids' books.

My biggest problem with Redwall is that they're almost all extremely similar in terms of plot, or at least seemed so to me.

[Frumple]

Heh. Yeah, I think I put Redwall about in the same category I do Xanth, insofar as age appropriateness goes. Drastically different reasons, but they're both stuff I'd consider easily mistaken for younger audiences. Young adults, maybe, but...

Mind you, with Xanth m'fairly sure Anthony is aiming them at younger readers, but Anthony is also a freak.

[Dutchling]

I read Redwall as a kid. Don't remember anything of it though.

[Flying Dice]

Heh. Yeah, I think I put Redwall about in the same category I do Xanth, insofar as age appropriateness goes. Drastically different reasons, but they're both stuff I'd consider easily mistaken for younger audiences. Young adults, maybe, but...

Mind you, with Xanth m'fairly sure Anthony is aiming them at younger readers, but Anthony is also a freak.

Grade-A USDA-approved prime freak.

[penguinofhonor]

My biggest problem with Redwall is that they're almost all extremely similar in terms of plot, or at least seemed so to me.

I loved them as a kid and read a bunch of them, but some point I couldn't figure out which ones I had read and which ones I hadn't. That's when I stopped.

[Tawa]

I read the original and the sequel in fifth grade.

I was the only kid in the class who liked the series, because I was the only guy who liked fantasy.

[hops]

I only read Redwall book 1, actually. I liked the villains more than the protagonists because the heroes are goddamn overpowered.

[SalmonGod]

... I'm pretty sure my class watched Watership Down in school in like 3rd or 4th grade...

But I also hardly remember anything about it.

[Loud Whispers]

I think it's a staple of every child's school years to have watched all the most horrifying horrors to get schoolyard kudos

[Spehss _]

My biggest problem with Redwall is that they're almost all extremely similar in terms of plot, or at least seemed so to me.

Yeah, there's a general formula.

Main hero and team one goes off on an adventure and meets lots of new people, secondary team two gets tasked with staying back and solving riddles to advance the plot, bad guy does bad guy stuff, everyone teams up in the end to war with the bad guy, bad guy dies of hubris and teamwork fueled by friendship. Also, cram a feast scene where all the animals bring their own cultural foods somewhere in there, and describe the food for pages.

That being said, I read a bunch of them, so that's probably how I figured it out.

[nenjin]

My biggest problem with Redwall is that they're almost all extremely similar in terms of plot, or at least seemed so to me.

Yeah, there's a general formula.

Don't forget the obligatory stop at Salamandstrom, because BADGER LORDS.