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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3783055 times)

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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35085 on: April 15, 2014, 02:01:44 pm »

"Stealing all the easily steered buses from men" has been a core tenet of feminism since its inception. The candidate Susan B. Anthony voted for was actually running on a platform that would make it illegal for men to drive anything but the most unresponsive and poorly maintained buses.
But of course. Who can forget some of the most important lines from her Speech: "Webster, Worcester, and Bouvier all define a citizen to be a person in the United States, entitled to vote, hold office and drive buses easily steered."
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35086 on: April 15, 2014, 02:27:56 pm »

"Stealing all the easily steered buses from men" has been a core tenet of feminism since its inception. The candidate Susan B. Anthony voted for was actually running on a platform that would make it illegal for men to drive anything but the most unresponsive and poorly maintained buses.
What exactly would the point of that be?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35087 on: April 15, 2014, 02:39:11 pm »

"Stealing all the easily steered buses from men" has been a core tenet of feminism since its inception.
Which is a reason why people seeking gender equality should refer to gender egalitarianism and not feminism.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35088 on: April 15, 2014, 03:56:01 pm »

I spilled... smoking apparatus water all over my keyboard. Luckily I can still type on it. Unluckily my whole desk area smells nasty.

You start hitting keys and all that prints out is "Dddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddeeeeeeeeeee"
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35089 on: April 15, 2014, 03:57:04 pm »

It makes total sense that Penguinofhonors keyboard is actually a prinny in disguise.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35090 on: April 15, 2014, 03:58:04 pm »

Holy shit, people actually don't read the one post at the end of the page...
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35091 on: April 15, 2014, 04:38:26 pm »

Also, races aren't really important. Your skin colour doesn't effect who you are. A white person born in China is going to be different from other  white people, but this is because of culture; the whole nature vs nurture thing. But with gender it's different. A woman sees the world the way she does because she's a woman. A man his own way, too.

Equal opportunities, as in women and man can both have the same chance to do what they want, is good. However, equality is a pipe dream, as both are naturally different, instead of in relation to culture (Nurture).

And the feminist movement doesn't even seem to be about equality. It's more exclusive than that. They want their gender to do better.

For example, my dad was a bus river before he retired. The women were given equal everything, but some buses were harder to steer than others. In steps feminism, and now women get all the easier buses to handle, and the men have to do both. That is not equality, nor equal opportunity.

I was going to ask you how far you think the biological differences between genders went, but then I noticed a more pressing question: how far do you think that the arm of feminism reaches?

The hardness of driving an individual bus isn't recorded (I assume) and it isn't something anyone outside that one job would care about.  No bureaucrat or activist would ever know about it.  Depending on how many buses we're talking here individual bus drivers might not even know or agree.   So how would feminism have anything to do with this?

We're not talking individual buses. We're talking makes of bus. There is more than one type or version, and some are harder than others. And the logic "Not anyone outside that job would care about" doesn't really ring true. And trust me, they all agree. I used to ride with my dad on the bus and in the bus yard. They all groaned and hated the same ones. The ones the female drivers didn't drive.

And biological differences speak for themselves. If you don't know what a woman looks like biologically, I'm not going to be the one to describe it to you. However, I'll assume you mean emotionally/mentally.

My answer would be that women and men are different in this regard, though there are those who are more feminine or masculine despite their gender. In social situations, girls are different. I'll not pretend to know much about it, but their social order is different from males.

Physically, again, the differences are obvious. As for the rest, it's almost negligible-women and men are the same on much more than they're different. But in many jobs it is physicality which judges how well a certain person can do something. Say, for example, farming; men tend to have bigger muscles, and so are capable at it. This explains why more men are farmers. If someone were employing farm-hands, men are typically more suited for the job. Were a woman to be equally or more so good at the job, they should either get it or be discounted because someone else is more suitable.

But my point is that because of physical attributes, men and women are different, and therefore tend to have differing jobs that involve physical roles. If the women could not handle the hard-steering buses as well, then those who can't aren't suitable for the job. Either the buses should be updated, or those who can't drive them don't get the job, male or female. You should not raise one gender above the order in offering them the better bus. That is sexism.

http://www.devpsy.org/teaching/gender/sex_differences.html
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35092 on: April 15, 2014, 05:15:33 pm »

Welp. Shut down for repairs again. This time it is after 3 in the afternoon and I'm still shut down. I'm usually in position to pick up my next load by now but today I haven't even started. This was AFTER I had to wait nearly 45 minutes to get my load information, mind.

Two hours later. They haven't even looked at the truck yet, and my dispatcher (not my normal one, this is a temporary fill-in) still won't let me just go home already.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35093 on: April 15, 2014, 07:49:55 pm »

On women farmers, for your consideration.

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Recognizing the factors restricting women from receiving full compensation for their role in global agriculture is key to alleviating the gender gap in agricultural employment, resources, and development. Women produce 60–80 percent of the food in developing countries but own less than 2 percent of the land. They typically farm non-commercial, staple crops, such as rice, wheat, and maize, which account for 90 percent of the food consumed by the rural poor.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35094 on: April 15, 2014, 07:54:55 pm »

That's interesting. I didn't know it was that high, but 43% is still 7% less than the number of men farmers.

Also, it is probably in countries such as Africa where they have to work.

And besides this, that was merely an example.

Still, that's some new info., thanks for supplying  :P
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« Reply #35095 on: April 15, 2014, 07:57:03 pm »

My point there was mostly about the crop yielded, where women are producing more food than men.

It is an example, yes, but my retort is also merely an example :P
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35096 on: April 15, 2014, 07:58:32 pm »

You know, these were not as bad as I'd thought, even thoguh they weren't exactly the ones I'd asked for. And yet as far as graceful headphone death goes, these don't even register on the scale compared to my previous set of headphones. Previous ones last in a vague way for a couple weeks after they're clearly done, these just stop working while I'm not using them and thats the end of it, after not even lasting half as long. Bah.
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35097 on: April 15, 2014, 08:11:58 pm »

Can we please stop talking about feminism?
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« Reply #35098 on: April 15, 2014, 08:22:25 pm »

Can we please stop talking about feminism?
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Re: Things that made you RRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: You Just Don't Get It Edition
« Reply #35099 on: April 15, 2014, 08:25:21 pm »

Can we please stop talking about feminism?
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