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[alway]

Fuck doctors with the force of one thousand suns. I've not been ill for eight years--nothing worse than sniffles that I barely even noticed. I let my GP talk me into a flu shot, and big fucking surprise, a few days later I wake up at 6 AM, vomit eight times between then and noon, and feel drawn out and broken for the rest of the day. The only way for bugs to beat my immune system is direct injection into the bloodstream by medical staff, it seems. Fuck doctors, I'm almost at the point of not taking the typhoid meds before I go abroad this summer from sheer lack of trust.

... Or it's just because you went into the doctor's office. Which happens to be where sick people congregate.

[majikero]

Sounds like an allergic reaction to me.

[Flying Dice]

Fuck doctors with the force of one thousand suns. I've not been ill for eight years--nothing worse than sniffles that I barely even noticed. I let my GP talk me into a flu shot, and big fucking surprise, a few days later I wake up at 6 AM, vomit eight times between then and noon, and feel drawn out and broken for the rest of the day. The only way for bugs to beat my immune system is direct injection into the bloodstream by medical staff, it seems. Fuck doctors, I'm almost at the point of not taking the typhoid meds before I go abroad this summer from sheer lack of trust.

... Or it's just because you went into the doctor's office. Which happens to be where sick people congregate.

The office was empty when I went, and as is my custom I washed my hands both in the office and when I got home. Also, this is literally the exact same thing that happened to an associate of mine after she got a flu shot. I'm hardly inclined to believe that it's coincidental the first time I've had the flu since before I turned 13 (and probably the worst I've ever had it) came two days after a flu shot. I've lived in close proximity to people with the flu pretty much every year and never caught it, thanks to a strong immune system + washing with hot water.

Sounds like an allergic reaction to me.

See above. Besides, I know my allergies (and their symptoms) and have been treating them for years. People getting the flu from flu shots is something that, y'know, happens. Unlike bullshit about autism and childhood immunizations, etc.

[Bauglir]

You do realize the flu actually does kill several thousand people in the US every year, right? A few hundred thousand worldwide. Small potatoes, to be sure, but I think you might be being overly flippant, Naxza. Also, the flu vaccine cannot give you the flu, though I agree that you probably should not get it again if it's having side effects that serious, Flying Dice. It's really only crucial in health care workers, who need to not spread the damn stuff, and people with weaker immune systems, who're at higher risk of having serious complications. Otherwise, I figure it's mostly a matter of encouraging herd immunity, which I'm not too worried about.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Besides, I know my allergies (and their symptoms) and have been treating them for years.

Even if you somehow did have a complete profile of that, allergies can arise where they did not exist before.

People getting the flu from flu shots is something that, y'know, happens. Unlike bullshit about autism and childhood immunizations, etc.

It only happens to the severely immunocompromised if given an attenuated vaccine, and you are not immunocompromised, because people without a strong immune reaction to trigger don't get allergies. Furthermore, you didn't get an attenuated vaccine if it was a shot and not FluMist, so there is literally zero chance of you having gotten the flu from this.

So don't spread this kind of misinformation, regardless of your personal anecdotes. It can kill.

[Vector]

Also people who GET FUCKING PNEUMONIA AND ASTHMA ALL THE TIME

sorry for the raegcaps, it's been a hard week.

[Tiruin]

Fuck doctors with the force of one thousand suns. I've not been ill for eight years--nothing worse than sniffles that I barely even noticed. I let my GP talk me into a flu shot, and big fucking surprise, a few days later I wake up at 6 AM, vomit eight times between then and noon, and feel drawn out and broken for the rest of the day. The only way for bugs to beat my immune system is direct injection into the bloodstream by medical staff, it seems. Fuck doctors, I'm almost at the point of not taking the typhoid meds before I go abroad this summer from sheer lack of trust.

I..erm, really think you should look into how those things work before cursing off our general profession, thanks. :S

... Or it's just because you went into the doctor's office. Which happens to be where sick people congregate.

This could also be a factor. Nosocomial diseases, suck~

You do realize the flu actually does kill several thousand people in the US every year, right? A few hundred thousand worldwide. Small potatoes, to be sure, but I think you might be being overly flippant, Naxza. Also, the flu vaccine cannot give you the flu, though I agree that you probably should not get it again if it's having side effects that serious, Flying Dice. It's really only crucial in health care workers, who need to not spread the damn stuff, and people with weaker immune systems, who're at higher risk of having serious complications. Otherwise, I figure it's mostly a matter of encouraging herd immunity, which I'm not too worried about.

Flu is caused by...a lot of things though. Many different sources of origin; mostly the same symptoms (what only you personally see) and signs (what can be seen by others).

Rage: VIRUSES ARE EEVIL D:<

[Vector]

Also, a lot of the puzzle games released recently are absolutely terrible.  I realize that most games released are absolutely terrible, but for some reason it's the puzzle games I notice the most.

(Excuse me "The Bridge" WTF did you think you were doing and could you please stop now, thanks)

[Ogdibus]

I'm sick of the fact that pointing out bigotry will often get a bigger backlash than acts of bigotry.  There are too many people that think that overt extremist bigotry is the only bigotry.  For some, the fear of association with those extreme views is so great that they will deny their own bigotry when it is presented to them.  For others, they are so secure in the assumption that they are not bigots that they cannot grasp the idea that they might be.
They end up perpetuating bigotry in their fear of being condemned for it.

Sensitivity is complex, however, and intent alone is not enough.  Subtle bigotry is very common, and nobody should be surprised to find themselves engaged in it.  When an accusation is made, it's worth giving it consideration.  If you don't want to be a bigot, you have to change as you learn.  It's not all or nothing.

This isn't about Duck Dynasty, btw.  It's just been building up over time, and also something that I learned first hand.  x3

[Vector]

I'm talking about myself, actually... I get flu shots because my lungs are pretty messed up.  Never smoked neither >.<

Sorry for the confusion.  I can totally commiserate.  Pneumonia fucking sucks.

[nenjin]

Indeed. Was not a fan the time I had it as a kid.

[Vector]

I was born in a poorer area of LA, where the air quality is shit and our closets were filled with black mold (also, where people in gangs were trying to kill each other in our back yard).  So, it's definitely a "we're not going to bother investigating that" situation, but I am pretty sure it makes sense.

[Tiruin]

I was born in a poorer area of LA, where the air quality is shit and our closets were filled with black mold (also, where people in gangs were trying to kill each other in our back yard).  So, it's definitely a "we're not going to bother investigating that" situation, but I am pretty sure it makes sense.

DX
That scares me. :S

[Sirus]

I was born in a poorer area of LA, where the air quality is shit and our closets were filled with black mold (also, where people in gangs were trying to kill each other in our back yard).  So, it's definitely a "we're not going to bother investigating that" situation, but I am pretty sure it makes sense.

At least you live near the coast now. Seems like the air there is usually pretty nice, if only because of that little body of water known as the Pacific Ocean.
Still, lung problems suck and I definitely feel for ya :/

Semi-rage: A while back I mentioned that a cable company I used to work for got involved in some sort of lawsuit that I got a cut of. I had hoped that the suit might have put them out of business. Nope: I still see their vehicles driving around and I still involuntarily hiss when one goes by. I can only hope that the ones that made life hell are gone 

[Frumple]

Ha ha ha. Yeah, I've noted before -- especially better off companies, they don't do shit if it will result in a lawsuit actually capable of crippling them. They will very specifically weigh legal costs vs. compliance (/not being jack holes) costs and choose legal costs if that costs them less, assuming they can absorb the PR hit a lawsuit (sometimes, not always) entails. There's the occasional exception, but by and large that's the rule of things, t'the best of my knowledge.