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Xantalos

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I have aspirations to become law enforcement....
You live at least 500 miles away from me; you'll be fine.
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I have aspirations to become law enforcement....
You live at least 500 miles away from me; you'll be fine.

What if he is called over as a specialist to catch the Cop Serial Killer?
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Xantalos

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I have aspirations to become law enforcement....
You live at least 500 miles away from me; you'll be fine.

What if he is called over as a specialist to catch the Cop Serial Killer?
I'll have long since implanted micronukes in every piece of cop equipment and be long gone.
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I have aspirations to become law enforcement....
You live at least 500 miles away from me; you'll be fine.

What if he is called over as a specialist to catch the Cop Serial Killer?
I'll have long since implanted micronukes in every piece of cop equipment and be long gone.

Wouldn't that be relatively harmless?
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There are a lot of scummy cops out there, but they are probably just as many good honest cops.
Depends which police force you're talking about. Some like the Met Police are great, but there are those like the NYPD which actively seek out good cops and get rid of them.

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Plaintiffs are informed and believe that Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department has a policy to not render aid if it appears that an individual, shot by a member of its department, will likely die without aid," the complaint states.
So, basically, they have a policy of watching people bleed to death? This sounds like it can also be interpereted as watching an innocent bystander die if they're hit with stray gunfire.


What the hell happened to "To Protect and Serve"?.
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Plaintiffs are informed and believe that Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department has a policy to not render aid if it appears that an individual, shot by a member of its department, will likely die without aid," the complaint states.
So, basically, they have a policy of watching people bleed to death? This sounds like it can also be interpereted as watching an innocent bystander die if they're hit with stray gunfire.

Honestly, I believe this is mitigation against lawsuits and that's it.  Dead person can't sue, nor testify. 

I've seen a few cases where people were handled like this, too.  One of the most memorable cases of police brutality I've ever seen was in 2008 at a protest outside the presidential debates.  An officer was harassing an Iraq war veteran with his horce, bumping into him over and over.  It was quite obviously intentional.  Finally, the guy was knocked down, and the horse stomped directly on his face, crushing part of his face.  The officer then refused to let anyone touched him, and said that he could only offer aid if the guy (unconscious) asked for it himself.  So for several minutes, his friends had to stand nearby shouting for him to wake up, before he finally did and asked for help.  The police responded by throwing him into a van for 5 hours without even any first aid.

I really think they hope that people will die in situations like that, because as screwed up as it is, it probably makes it easier for them to avoid any consequences for their actions.
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We dance for the idiots
As the end will come so soon
In the land of twilight

Maybe people should love for the sake of loving, and not with all of these optimization conditions.

RedKing

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Were he my kid, his apology (and punishment) would be to recreate the section of wall exactly using the tools and materials that would have been used to make the original, and then give that to Egypt. Not the entire temple, because where the heck would he do it, but the wall section, down the the finest humanly possible detail.

Because really, what the hell. Why would anyone visiting something like that think that it would be a good idea to carve their name into it?
I've seen stuff like that carved into the Great Wall. Of course, the inscription I found was dated "35th year of Qianlong", so it was written about 1770 by some really bored Qing dynasty soldier. Pretty sure Hadrian's Wall has similar Roman graffiti on parts of it. Damn Italian tourists... :P
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Plaintiffs are informed and believe that Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department has a policy to not render aid if it appears that an individual, shot by a member of its department, will likely die without aid," the complaint states.
So, basically, they have a policy of watching people bleed to death? This sounds like it can also be interpereted as watching an innocent bystander die if they're hit with stray gunfire.

Honestly, I believe this is mitigation against lawsuits and that's it.  Dead person can't sue, nor testify. 

I've seen a few cases where people were handled like this, too.  One of the most memorable cases of police brutality I've ever seen was in 2008 at a protest outside the presidential debates.  An officer was harassing an Iraq war veteran with his horce, bumping into him over and over.  It was quite obviously intentional.  Finally, the guy was knocked down, and the horse stomped directly on his face, crushing part of his face.  The officer then refused to let anyone touched him, and said that he could only offer aid if the guy (unconscious) asked for it himself.  So for several minutes, his friends had to stand nearby shouting for him to wake up, before he finally did and asked for help.  The police responded by throwing him into a van for 5 hours without even any first aid.

I really think they hope that people will die in situations like that, because as screwed up as it is, it probably makes it easier for them to avoid any consequences for their actions.

I think we need a new, outside agency to deal with the clear and present problem of discipline in the police and military far removed from the existing establishment.
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Plaintiffs are informed and believe that Stanislaus County Sheriff's Department has a policy to not render aid if it appears that an individual, shot by a member of its department, will likely die without aid," the complaint states.
So, basically, they have a policy of watching people bleed to death? This sounds like it can also be interpereted as watching an innocent bystander die if they're hit with stray gunfire.

Honestly, I believe this is mitigation against lawsuits and that's it.  Dead person can't sue, nor testify. 

I've seen a few cases where people were handled like this, too.  One of the most memorable cases of police brutality I've ever seen was in 2008 at a protest outside the presidential debates.  An officer was harassing an Iraq war veteran with his horce, bumping into him over and over.  It was quite obviously intentional.  Finally, the guy was knocked down, and the horse stomped directly on his face, crushing part of his face.  The officer then refused to let anyone touched him, and said that he could only offer aid if the guy (unconscious) asked for it himself.  So for several minutes, his friends had to stand nearby shouting for him to wake up, before he finally did and asked for help.  The police responded by throwing him into a van for 5 hours without even any first aid.

I really think they hope that people will die in situations like that, because as screwed up as it is, it probably makes it easier for them to avoid any consequences for their actions.

I think we need a new, outside agency to deal with the clear and present problem of discipline in the police and military far removed from the existing establishment.
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Y'see, it's things like these that try to convince me to become a serial cop killer just for the hell of it. The only reason I don't is that someone I respect very much is a cop.
There are a lot of scummy cops out there, but they are probably just as many good honest cops.
A few bad apples spoil the bunch, as the saying goes. You either have departments dedicated to rooting out bad cops (and they DO exist!) or you have a police force that is corrupt to the core, because bad cops have a corrupting influence on the force as a whole.

Remember that when anyone says "It's just a few bad apples", that is what the saying means. It means the whole bunch is bad, because you can't work with a few bad apples for long without turning bad yourself.
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There is a word on the tip of my tongue. That I do not recall. It means "peoples representative", a position dedicated to investigating government to make sure it is operating in the interest of the people. But I can't recall what it is right now. In any case, this is something that we really need to have in this country. Someone able to force the police to comply with the law.
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There is a word on the tip of my tongue. That I do not recall. It means "peoples representative", a position dedicated to investigating government to make sure it is operating in the interest of the people. But I can't recall what it is right now. In any case, this is something that we really need to have in this country. Someone able to force the police to comply with the law.
Ombudsman.
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Ombudsman?

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Also, I think we need to go a step well beyond Ombudsman at this point. A full Internal Affairs department except without being Internal.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 10:49:26 am by GlyphGryph »
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There are a lot of scummy cops out there, but they are probably just as many good honest cops.
Depends which police force you're talking about. Some like the Met Police are great, but there are those like the NYPD which actively seek out good cops and get rid of them.
Generally Rural is better than Metro/City. Willing to overlook small things that don't impact anyone or small mistakes, you're more likely to know them...
In my experience. This is true in Australis, and I've seen a few stories of American rural cops being pretty good people. Don't know about the UK or elsewhere really.
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