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[Hanslanda]

My hand hurts so bad today that I literally feel like I'm going to vomit. This makes me angry.

[misko27]

Trying to play fairly high-skill custom maps in Starcraft with people who don't understand the concept of a tutorial, >don't speak english> and refuse to acknowledge communication.

I actually want to hurt people, this made me so fucking angry. >Why would you go into a game's custom map without even knowing how to play the game?<

There are actually a number of connectors here.

[Baneling]

I mean, they spoke English, but barely. And the communication was nonverbal, i.e pinging the map to imply that something's up with what's going on there.

And when I say "not knowing how to play the game", I'm referring to Starcraft at all. As I understand it, they installed the game first time, went "ooh, arcade, that sounds cool", happened to find the game I was joining and joined themself.

EDIT: Also, since the map was just a normal skirmish map with some observer stuff thrown in, they could have played it in their native language, as far as the actual game is concerned, so that's not an out.

[Xantalos]

Anyone here ever read The Salvation War? I got it recommended to me, but I couldn't read it after I realized that it was basically FUCK YEAH MURICA KICKS ASS WIHT TEKNOLOGEE.
Some highlights:
1. Every weapon is described in excessive detail, saying exactly how it dismembers the enemy, yet the demons basically seem to be humans with red skin.
2. A messenger demon sent to herald the apocalypse to humans - keep in mind they're 20 feet tall - is killed by Thailand police ...for littering.
3. Bill Clinton somehow knows how to tell if a succubus is a real woman or not and casually kills one with a shotgun he pulls out of nowhere. BILL. CLINTON.

Overall, teh oomanz win easily and there's no excitement in the book because you know the demons lose because MURICA.
In essence, I didn't like it.

[fqllve]

Are you sure it wasn't supposed to be a satire? That sound like a satire to me.

[Darvi]

Poe's law, man.

[Gunner-Chan]

You can do a satire extremely badly. And last I checked Salvation war was either an extremely bad military boner stroking fiction or a bad satire. But given the quality it doesn't really matter if it's either.

[Xantalos]

Are you sure it wasn't supposed to be a satire? That sound like a satire to me.

Some other random guys' opinion on it. He must be validated!

You can do a satire extremely badly. And last I checked Salvation war was either an extremely bad military boner stroking fiction or a bad satire. But given the quality it doesn't really matter if it's either.

Yep.

[Bdthemag]

The problem with bad satire is that you can just interpret it as satire of bad satire.

[Xantalos]

The problem with bad satire is that you can just interpret it as satire of bad satire.

It's written completely seriously, unfortunately.

[Darvi]

Of course if you do something intentionally bad the fact remains that it's still bad.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Anyone here ever read The Salvation War? I got it recommended to me, but I couldn't read it after I realized that it was basically FUCK YEAH MURICA KICKS ASS WIHT TEKNOLOGEE.

It's more Humanity Fuck Yeah than America Fuck Yeah. Russia and China are heavily involved in the war. America is prominent, but we have the most powerful military by far. It would be stranger if we weren't at the forefront of a global alliance against an outside threat.

1. Every weapon is described in excessive detail, saying exactly how it dismembers the enemy, yet the demons basically seem to be humans with red skin.

For this you have to know about the author. Stewart Slade is a weapon buff. He loves weapons and has done research on weapons for all of his past works. (The last one, The Big One, was an alternate history concerning the end of World War II)

You didn't read very far if you think that about the demons. The more alien ones get introduced as the story goes on, as well as the other lifeforms of Hell.

2. A messenger demon sent to herald the apocalypse to humans - keep in mind they're 20 feet tall - is killed by Thailand police ...for littering.

Just because they're intimidating and huge doesn't make them bulletproof. Indeed, that is kind of the point.

3. Bill Clinton somehow knows how to tell if a succubus is a real woman or not and casually kills one with a shotgun he pulls out of nowhere. BILL. CLINTON.

Oh, come on, that was awesome. As for a justification, humanity is well aware of Hell and demons by that point in the story. The succubi function by way of hallucinogenic pheromones, but that doesn't make them foolproof. The shotgun belonged to his Secret Service detail.

Overall, teh oomanz win easily and there's no excitement in the book because you know the demons lose because MURICA.
In essence, I didn't like it.

That humanity wins isn't the real focus of the story. Our victory is clear from the moment we find out the demons never left the bronze age. The focus of the story is about our expansion of knowledge and the individual goals of the characters, rather than the war as a whole.

Panteocide is a better story because it involves a lot of intrigue, though.

[fqllve]

Poe's law, man.

I prefer to think that some people just don't realize they're making satire.

From the thread you linked, Xantalos, it sounds like it was written by a 12 year-old with a milfic obsession, which it clearly wasn't. I would immediately cease contact with anyone who recommended it to me, for your sanity and their physical health.

[Thecard]

I don't think he's upset that it was killed by the Thailand police.  I think he's more upset about the reason. Littering?

[Darvi]

I don't think he's upset that it was killed by the Thailand police.  I think he's more upset about the reason. Littering?

Halt! Criminal scum!