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Better than having your mom try to get you to watch dumb R-rated movies like American Pie but not letting you watch 300... Why would I want to see dumb nudity when I could see a cool action movie and possibly get an urge to research it?

Possibly because that movie tells a lot of lies about a lot of people that can be difficult to decode for the inexperienced.

You do realize that was intentional, right? Pretty much the entire movie is a played-up folk-tale version of events from a very unreliable narrator.

I would certainly hope that people don't come out of that movie trusting it for historical accuracy after seeing a ten-foot-tall god-like Xerxes and weird blade-hands Persian mutants.
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Better than having your mom try to get you to watch dumb R-rated movies like American Pie but not letting you watch 300... Why would I want to see dumb nudity when I could see a cool action movie and possibly get an urge to research it?

Possibly because that movie tells a lot of lies about a lot of people that can be difficult to decode for the inexperienced.

You do realize that was intentional, right? Pretty much the entire movie is a played-up folk-tale version of events from a very unreliable narrator.

I would certainly hope that people don't come out of that movie trusting it for historical accuracy after seeing a ten-foot-tall god-like Xerxes and weird blade-hands Persian mutants.
Dude, there's always going to be those people.

Unless we exterminate them now.
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Maybe, but I don't think that's the fault of the movie, considering how obviously fictionalized it was, even in-universe.
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It's never this easy.

 Why is it never this easy?!
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You do realize that was intentional, right? Pretty much the entire movie is a played-up folk-tale version of events from a very unreliable narrator.

I would certainly hope that people don't come out of that movie trusting it for historical accuracy after seeing a ten-foot-tall god-like Xerxes and weird blade-hands Persian mutants.

I didn't mean in terms of the legend of the Spartans, when speaking in an entirely concrete manner.
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I'm kind of curious what you meant, then.
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Mostly in terms of which symbols and concepts are used to heroicize, and which are used to condemn.
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You don't seem like you want to say anything specific, but it would very much help!
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You don't seem like you want to say anything specific, but it would very much help!
It was a pretty freakin' misogynist and xenophobic movie. And so bass-ackwards on the history part. It (and some radio interviews he did) was also the beacon that made me finally realize that despite being an excellent artist and writer, Frank Miller is pretty much a douche that flipped out after 9/11. Maybe he and Dennis Miller are distant relations, because they both went off the deep end after 2001.
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You don't seem like you want to say anything specific, but it would very much help!
It was a pretty freakin' misogynist and xenophobic movie.

I don't see how movies can be judged by such claims, is Lord of the Rings also misogynist and xenophobic? Should we ban and protest against all movies that portray problems relevant in modern society?

300 was an action movie with a faint historical theme about 300 men with huge swelling chests killing huge droves of enemies in fantastical environments, people put way too much time into analyzing movies about details that are merely background.
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You don't seem like you want to say anything specific, but it would very much help!
It was a pretty freakin' misogynist and xenophobic movie.

I don't see how movies can be judged by such claims, is Lord of the Rings also misogynist and xenophobic? Should we ban and protest against all movies that portray problems relevant in modern society?

I actually discussed this with a friend. Mainly, whether the main characters' attitudes towards orcs are justified. They seem to consider orcs to be worthless, despite orcs clearly being fairly intelligent. Later I learned that the redeemability of orcs has been a recurring theme in Middle Earth discussions...

About misogyny, can't remember well enough to analyze the female characters. Tolkien does have that one female character slay one of the Big Bads, though, contrary to everyone's expectations.
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Pippin's the one who actually slew him in the book, iirc.
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