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Author Topic: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Trust-o-nomics Edition  (Read 3774105 times)

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44205 on: October 07, 2014, 11:46:11 am »

fire alarm ;_;

i guess that's gonna scare the pizza guy away too >.>
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44206 on: October 07, 2014, 11:49:47 am »

Math class is boring as fuck when you already know everything they're teaching. I signed up for an honors class at the beginning of the year, but they just said "nah" and gave me the one I'm currently in. I know there's a way to switch to a more advanced class, so hopefully I can convince them to move me. But for now, I get to keep working with extremely easy concepts with a class full of underachievers.

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44207 on: October 07, 2014, 12:17:35 pm »

Math class is boring as fuck when you already know everything they're teaching. I signed up for an honors class at the beginning of the year, but they just said "nah" and gave me the one I'm currently in. I know there's a way to switch to a more advanced class, so hopefully I can convince them to move me. But for now, I get to keep working with extremely easy concepts with a class full of underachievers.

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I read that as meth class.

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44208 on: October 07, 2014, 01:35:36 pm »

Classes are less boring if you already know the content but are the one teaching it :P

For example, today we had a lot of fun determining the resistance of a Velociraptor (spelling?) based on the scenario of it trying to escape the Jurassic Park electrified pen (turns out meat has a resistivity of around 30000 Ohm Metres). Then for giggles we worked out the current that would flow in pee if you pissed up against the same fence. Depending on the piss stream geometry, anything from 0.1 of an Amp up to 12 Amps, if you are interested. Basic flow of charge stuff, but fun nevertheless. Done more for my benefit than my students though.

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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44209 on: October 07, 2014, 01:36:41 pm »

I do wonder if the T-Rex really could have escaped the pen as it did.
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« Reply #44210 on: October 07, 2014, 01:38:30 pm »

I do wonder if the T-Rex really could have escaped the pen as it did.

It did scale a pretty decent sized cliff...
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« Reply #44211 on: October 07, 2014, 01:50:03 pm »

I actually get annoyed when I hear people complain about their classes. "Why do we have to do this? It's not like I'm ever going to need to use math after I finish my Liberal Arts program!"


Have fun going broke because you don't know how to manage your finances. Or have fun going broke because you have a Liberal Arts major.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44212 on: October 07, 2014, 01:52:57 pm »

have fun going broke because you weren't rich enough to get on the bandwagon before it turned fully dystopian you mean
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44213 on: October 07, 2014, 02:05:47 pm »

Have fun going broke because you don't know how to manage your finances.
... I don't think I've used -- or needed -- a single thing more advanced than very basic algebra in regards to anything related to financing. You don't need more than basic understand of the concept and use of variables to basically master friggin' accounting, never mind basic lifestyle finance management.

And beyond that, not a single bloody one of the math classes I've taken -- not even the freaking one on business related math -- had jack all in regards to actually teaching you how to use any of it in a practical way. Not a damned thing outside some halfhearted budgeting exercises and poorly framed examples

So no. People aren't going to learn to manage their finances in math class, unless the curriculum has radically changed recently. Above and beyond that, math in general does fuck all to genuinely help you manage your finances to begin with -- it lets you track the numbers better, but that does nothing for your decision making or long and short term planning ability in and of itself. Math facilitates financial planning, but it does not enable it.

Call it something of my own personal annoyance. Getting annoyed about people getting annoyed about being taught math that has no direct use for them -- and worse, not even taught how to actually goddamn use what they can use -- annoys me. Don't get annoyed at them -- get annoyed at the either the idiots who are teaching them or the greater idiots that have forced non-idiots to teach poorly.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44214 on: October 07, 2014, 04:29:09 pm »

That's something most people - including teachers - get wrong: Learning math is not about being able to perform calculations. Learning math is about learning to think like a mathematician.
It's nice to know what a vector is and what it does, and trigonometry is occasionally useful, but really these are just examples from which one should learn to perform rigorous abstraction.
Unfortunately mathematics is often taught as if it only consisted of algorithms: "Here's a recipe. Do it 100 times. Here's another, similar recipe. Do it another 100 times." Etc etc.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44215 on: October 07, 2014, 05:09:52 pm »

I'm in favor of math classes like I'm in favor of English and Science classes, which is to say they're marvelous ways to explore thought and abstraction and the general state of human knowledge and so on, but they do need to be taught that way instead of an emphasis on how useful it's going to be. It's not, unless you land in a profession that specifically requires it (in which case, you probably didn't need to be lectured on how useful it was going to be in the first place). While I do wish people enjoyed learning more for the sake of learning, that's realistically not an expectation you can go into teaching with anyway.

You're basically learning it to earn a grade, maybe remember it on a standardized test, and have the groundwork needed for any choice of major in whatever postsecondary education you pursue, if any.

Mind you, this all falls out the metaphorical window if you're in postsecondary education. At that point, you're presumably there voluntarily (and if you're not, your courses aren't the problem), and you're paying for the classes - your motivation there, if you aren't in it for the knowledge (and you should be) is that it's part of the payment for the degree you're after. At this point the education system doesn't really even pretend to be about providing useful day-to-day knowledge.
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Re: Things that made you RRRRRRAAAAGGGGEEEE today: Poouroboros Edition
« Reply #44218 on: October 07, 2014, 08:09:06 pm »

So apparently me downloading some KSP mods is responsible for a virus getting onto the PC. Note: none if the mods were responsible for it. Some people are incapable of taking responsibility.
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« Reply #44219 on: October 07, 2014, 08:16:31 pm »

So apparently me downloading some KSP mods is responsible for a virus getting onto the PC. Note: none if the mods were responsible for it. Some people are incapable of taking responsibility.

Shouldn't your AV have stopped that? or at least detected it?
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