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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Kids have nightmares all the time though, right? Please tell me that wasn't just my apparently tortured subconscious again, it was crazy enough hearing that most people my age get nightmares only very rarely.

[ChairmanPoo]

I dont think its' that rare. At least I get plenty of them

[Yoink]

Arrgh my phone's headphone jack is broken. Kill me now.

[SalmonGod]

Kids have nightmares all the time though, right? Please tell me that wasn't just my apparently tortured subconscious again, it was crazy enough hearing that most people my age get nightmares only very rarely.

I know plenty of people who have had nightmare troubles their whole lives.  In fact, I've thought myself the odd one out for not having them, or dreaming much at all.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I dont think its' that rare. At least I get plenty of them

Everyone else I've talked to says they have nightmares once or twice a year. I had no idea I was an outlier, but I went and read about it and only about 1% of 18 year olds have nightmares three or more times per week, which is the frequency I have them. Though apparently there are people who are even worse, to the point where their nightmares cause them to become mentally ill and phobic of sleeping.

[kaijyuu]

I had nightmares once in a while, but yeah it was at worst a once or twice a month thing. Haven't had a nightmare in quite some time, now.


Maybe your subconscious just hates you.

[SalmonGod]

My wife has nightmares every single time she sleeps, without exception.

[Frumple]

Kids have nightmares all the time though, right? Please tell me that wasn't just my apparently tortured subconscious again, it was crazy enough hearing that most people my age get nightmares only very rarely.

I had pretty regular nightmares when I was younger, yeah, if not really anymore. Rarely induced by media, though. Only movie I really remember doing that to me was disney's Fantasia (which scared the ever-loving fuck out of my younger self and gave me nightmares for something like a week. Watching bits years later, I could see why.) and one (both?) of the never-ending stories.

What in th'name of all that's holy is a parent doing showing a young child something like the Exorcist (I guess?), anyway? I'm not saying shelter the children or stupid shit like that, but major horror/violence flicks probably isn't the best of things to inflict on a young'un.

But yeah, systemically inflicting disturbing media on a child is... well, there's more forms of abuse than physical (though they're not nearly as regularly prosecuted ). If it's something that leaves a kid distressed for a long period, that's a pretty shitty thing to be doing to 'em. Hell, it's a shitty thing to do to anyone, really, in most cases.

[Hanslanda]

Odd. I have nightmares far more often than is normal as well. Nightmares don't really bother me though, as I usually am semi-lucid dreaming, and I can make myself wake up pretty easily if I get too freaked out.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Maybe your subconscious just hates you.

I could actually believe that, as I still remember the horror show that was the "Let's have MSH be brutally murdered by people he knows and trusts every night" recurring nightmare from a little over a year ago. That sure was fun.

What in th'name of all that's holy is a parent doing showing a young child something like the Exorcist (I guess?), anyway? I'm not saying shelter the children or stupid shit like that, but major horror/violence flicks probably isn't the best of things to inflict on a young'un.

Penguin wasn't talking about The Exorcist. Some Catholics (and a few Protestants) still practice real exorcism on children they think are possessed by demons. It's fucked up.

[SalmonGod]

Children die here in Indiana every year from exorcisms.

[kaenneth]

Grew up near the end of the Cold War. In line of sight of a Boeing plant.

My nightmares consisted of a flash of light, and knowing that duck-and-cover does jack-and-shit.

Recently had a flashback to those times when a red light camera (I think) went off near me for no apperent reason. I paused for a second waiting for the shockwave.

[Hanslanda]

Wait. So I'm not allowed to use substances because some old guy said it wasn't okay fifty years ago, but people can murder their fucking children and excuse it with religion?! What the fuck?

[Frumple]

Penguin wasn't talking about The Exorcist. Some Catholics (and a few Protestants) still practice real exorcism on children they think are possessed by demons. It's fucked up.

Aye, aware, just didn't figure there's been much media of the actual stuff (it'd be flipping evidence, if nothing else). Though I'm not really aware how active... I guess you'd call it fundamentalist? Media production is. Most of the more extreme stuff... at the very least, I haven't noticed it much in more public venues. Might be a symptom of the area I'm in, that's pretty heavily fundamentalist but even heavier drunk, i.e. primarily so they've got an excuse for xenophobia of varying degrees.

Though I guess I do vaguely remember a couple of TV things form years back... eh.

[penguinofhonor]

What in th'name of all that's holy is a parent doing showing a young child something like the Exorcist (I guess?), anyway? I'm not saying shelter the children or stupid shit like that, but major horror/violence flicks probably isn't the best of things to inflict on a young'un.

Penguin wasn't talking about The Exorcist. Some Catholics (and a few Protestants) still practice real exorcism on children they think are possessed by demons. It's fucked up.

Nothing about real exorcisms. The movie in question was The Exorcism of Emily Rose, at least for two of the three people I asked.

Note that these kids were 12-14 when this happened. Still having nightmares like eight-year-olds who watched something they shouldn't have. Except these were teenagers whose parents were fine with their children watching it, and encouraged their fear.

I believe the abuse in question was showing scary films and saying they were real. Which probably isn't child abuse, unless you can prove some serious mental trauma and not just nightmares. I mean, parents tell ghost stories and such all the time to young kids and say they were real.

I mean, this might just be me, but I feel like kids get a lot more scared by movies than they do by things like scary stories. At least I did. I think it's the visual factor. I mean, the scariest part of those scary story books was the super creepy art in them.

And a big part of getting over scary stories and stuff when you're younger is when your parents tell you that it's not real and everything is fine. I can't imagine what I'd have done if I was watching a scary movie and my parent told me that it was real. It's a tremendous abuse of the trust your children put in you.

It's different from something like saying a scary story is still real, because after your kid freaks out for a while you're probably going to tell them they were just kidding. But these kids were scared for weeks, and all the while their parents reassured them that yes, demons really possess people. Stuff like this really happens.

I guess there's not any permanent trauma besides them still being terrified of exorcism movies despite realizing that exorcisms are bull, but it's still just really fucked up and I really don't think any parent who would do crap like that deserves to raise children.