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[Rose]

Anyway, here's a piece of news: I have the creature offsets. Creatures should work in stonesense and other tools when they get updated

Spoiler: Way ahead of you there. (click to show/hide)

[Truean]

Did I just hear Japa has offsets? Awesome.

Also legacy question. I've used DF Hack's liquids to cast obsidian en mass. I've also used it to individually alter tile by tile obsidian. When casting en mass, I end up with heat traps and realize the readme even warns of this.

Is there any way to mod in large amounts of water over magma without generating heat traps? It's quite a shock to see your dwarf on fire and a puddle of melted copper (formerly his pick).

[Haruspex_Pariah]

Hey guys. I downloaded the bin files, and it told me I needed msvc. I downloaded the msvc, but when I double click dfcleanmap it says there's an error and closes. When I double click dfliquids I get "couldn't find a suitable process". I'm a bit confused here.

EDIT: Wait, does it have to be the SDL version of DF to work?

[peterix]

Hey guys. I downloaded the bin files, and it told me I needed msvc. I downloaded the msvc, but when I double click dfcleanmap it says there's an error and closes. When I double click dfliquids I get "couldn't find a suitable process". I'm a bit confused here.

EDIT: Wait, does it have to be the SDL version of DF to work?

Yes.

[Khift]

This is pretty much a mystery to me. I tried changing hematite just like you did and gen a new world. Everything seems to work just right. Can you give me the save?

Anyway, here's a piece of news: I have the creature offsets. Creatures should work in stonesense and other tools when they get updated

Here's a save, from the fourth world I've genned using this modified .txt (no embark on any of the four worlds has worked with DFHack): http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3862

I'm going to mess around with some more numbers, see if that changes anything. I'm getting the feeling that a lower frequency value actually makes that type of stone more frequent as opposed to less....

[Khift]

Alrighty, so now I feel rather silly but in hindsight I suppose I shouldn't because let's be honest I couldn't have seen this coming.

Turns out, the issue I've been having is that I had a phantom copy of dwarf fortress floating around my active processes. Evidently at some point I acquired this phantom copy and beyond that point every time I tried to fire up DFHack it would try and probe the phantom copy and inevitably fail. I didn't realize it was there until I swapped back to an unmodded mineral file and still couldn't use DFHack, so I decided to reinstall DF and windows wouldn't let me because the core DLLs were still technically in use. A trip through the task manager revealed another copy of DF, and cancelling that fixed all my problems.

Not certain how I could have seen that coming... >_> Anyways, thanks for the help. Probably no point in examining that file, eh?

[peterix]

Alrighty, so now I feel rather silly but in hindsight I suppose I shouldn't because let's be honest I couldn't have seen this coming.

Turns out, the issue I've been having is that I had a phantom copy of dwarf fortress floating around my active processes. Evidently at some point I acquired this phantom copy and beyond that point every time I tried to fire up DFHack it would try and probe the phantom copy and inevitably fail. I didn't realize it was there until I swapped back to an unmodded mineral file and still couldn't use DFHack, so I decided to reinstall DF and windows wouldn't let me because the core DLLs were still technically in use. A trip through the task manager revealed another copy of DF, and cancelling that fixed all my problems.

Not certain how I could have seen that coming... >_> Anyways, thanks for the help. Probably no point in examining that file, eh?

I looked at it already, and found nothing strange. Anyway, no harm done. The embark has a LOT of native aluminium

[Khift]

Yeah I'm working on finding a balance between too many minerals and enough minerals to be playable. I should have something worthwhile to post soon, though. I've already got a setup that's good for the goal, but I want... better!

Edit: Is there any way to get prospector to print it's results to a text file? That would save me quite a bit of time. Trying to document results with various settings here.

[Quietust]

Also legacy question. I've used DF Hack's liquids to cast obsidian en mass. I've also used it to individually alter tile by tile obsidian. When casting en mass, I end up with heat traps and realize the readme even warns of this.

Is there any way to mod in large amounts of water over magma without generating heat traps? It's quite a shock to see your dwarf on fire and a puddle of melted copper (formerly his pick).

If you add the water 1 Z-level above the magma and allow the water to fall down onto the magma, then the game should properly reset the fixed temperature of each tile. Heat traps only happen when you use dfliquids to delete magma (or presumably place obsidian on top of magma) - if you want to safely remove magma, what you should do is reduce the area to 2/7 depth and then set a few individual tiles to 1/7 to start it sloshing around and drying up (in my previous tests, setting it directly to 1/7 seemed to make the game forget that it should start drying up, but I could very well be mistaken).

[Truean]

Also legacy question. I've used DF Hack's liquids to cast obsidian en mass. I've also used it to individually alter tile by tile obsidian. When casting en mass, I end up with heat traps and realize the readme even warns of this.

Is there any way to mod in large amounts of water over magma without generating heat traps? It's quite a shock to see your dwarf on fire and a puddle of melted copper (formerly his pick).

If you add the water 1 Z-level above the magma and allow the water to fall down onto the magma, then the game should properly reset the fixed temperature of each tile. Heat traps only happen when you use dfliquids to delete magma (or presumably place obsidian on top of magma) - if you want to safely remove magma, what you should do is reduce the area to 2/7 depth and then set a few individual tiles to 1/7 to start it sloshing around and drying up (in my previous tests, setting it directly to 1/7 seemed to make the game forget that it should start drying up, but I could very well be mistaken).

Hum, I'll have to try that. I've usually set the magma to straight 2/7 tiles right under the water and it hasn't worked. Perhaps if I unpause the game, let it slosh around a bit and then ad the 7/7 water a z level above, that might work...? Hum, interesting, will have to test....

[BigD145]

It's best if the liquid has some movement to it so the game knows what to do with this magically appearing magma/water.

[myrkul]

Maybe I'm just an idiot... where is the source, so I can compile for linux?
Don't see a link on the first post.

Edit: found it. you should probably include that github link in the op, rather than burying it in the readme.

edit2: Now I get this error when I try to configure it...

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CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
X11_LIBRARY
    linked by target "dfhack" in directory /home/marty/Downloads/dfhack/library

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
Also, it's still complaining about not having wide ncurses libraries, even after I installed libncursesw5 and -dev.
All I want is reveal and liquids, so it's not a huge loss, but it is annoying.

[peterix]

edit2: Now I get this error when I try to configure it...

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CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND.
Please set them or make sure they are set and tested correctly in the CMake files:
X11_LIBRARY
    linked by target "dfhack" in directory /home/marty/Downloads/dfhack/library

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
Also, it's still complaining about not having wide ncurses libraries, even after I installed libncursesw5 and -dev.
All I want is reveal and liquids, so it's not a huge loss, but it is annoying.

You probably need something like libx11-dev. I'm not sure about the exact name right now. It is listed in the Compile file.
Here's the dependencies `objdump -x projects/dfhack/output/libdfhack-debug.so | grep NEEDED`reports on my system:

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  NEEDED               libX11.so.6
  NEEDED               librt.so.1
  NEEDED               libstdc++.so.6
  NEEDED               libm.so.6
  NEEDED               libgcc_s.so.1
  NEEDED               libc.so.6

The ncurses lib is required for the dfveinlook tool I use for testing map reading... and one of the build scripts can't find it. You could give cmake the exact place where the library is, or try to fix this file so it works with your distribution. The tool is more for looking at the 'guts' of the map than anything else though.

[myrkul]

That worked. All built and installed. test forthcoming.

Important tools work. They crash when exiting, but well, they're exiting. I don't mind.

[Thundercraft]

Anyway, here's a piece of news: I have the creature offsets. Creatures should work in stonesense and other tools when they get updated

From the little testing I've done, it seems those new creature offsets only work for the new .19.
There is certainly excitement among the Stonesense crowd now that creatures work. But nearly everyone seems to forget to mention which version of DF they're using.