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Dachande

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Cant train my dragon :<
« on: June 06, 2010, 07:37:46 am »

I can't seem to train my Dragon into a war dragon at the kennels D:

I've tamed it, and it's fine and all, but when I set the kennels to "train war animal" it just says that he cancels it: no creature.

Oh, and this is 40d btw.


Edit: Oh, and yes, I do have the dungeon master.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 07:51:08 am »

You must've forgotten to add ''[Trainable]'' to the raw file.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 07:53:02 am »

You can only train war -dogs-. You can -tame- dragons if you've a dungeon master but without tinkering in the raws you ca'n't make them into war animals.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 08:03:49 am »

You can only train war -dogs-. You can -tame- dragons if you've a dungeon master but without tinkering in the raws you ca'n't make them into war animals.
The wiki led me to believe you can tame elephants and other beasts as well.

Anyway, thats a shame. Thanks for the answers though
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 08:07:13 am »

You can only train war -dogs-. You can -tame- dragons if you've a dungeon master but without tinkering in the raws you ca'n't make them into war animals.

The wiki and my horde of war animals of various species (including a bunch of apes, Elepehants and Giant Tigers/Lions/Eagles) which were definitely trained at the Kennel after being purchased tame from the elven caravan beg to differ.

Not that this helps with the OP's question, but I felt like pointing that out.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 08:19:04 am »

Huh. Well, in the older versions it was this way. Are you using any mods, zergl?
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 08:37:31 am »

Huh. Well, in the older versions it was this way. Are you using any mods, zergl?
Nop. Completely vanilla (almost, the only raw modification I use is adding [SHELL] to hooves and horn to keep moody dorfs from insanity on maps without turtle).


edit: Oh, OP says 40d. My bad (referring to 31.x).
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 08:39:07 am »

Huh. Well, in the older versions it was this way. Are you using any mods, zergl?
Nop. Completely vanilla (almost, the only raw modification I use is adding [SHELL] to hooves and horn to keep moody dorfs from insanity on maps without turtle).

Ahhh, you're talking about 2010.

Everyone else was kinda talking about 40d, bro.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 08:40:18 am »

Yeah, I noticed.

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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 05:32:53 pm »

Wait..... Does this mean we can have war dragons in the new version?

Although that does beg the question how can they get any deadlier?
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 08:38:19 pm »

And so harmony was restored to the universe :)
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 08:43:22 pm »

You should watch that movie, How to Train your dragon. It's pretty informational.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 11:52:23 am »

i have a fort with a war dragon.

It requires you to edit the raws, in df2010 the raws are copied into the save folder, so edit them here, add [trainable] and change the tag [pet exotic] to [pet] i think. theres another thread on it..http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=55453.msg1194762#msg1194762

you can leave out the pet exotic bit if you have a dungeon master, but ive never seen one in this version.

In general you can train alot of animals. ive trained war: elephants, cougars, cheetas, tigers, gorillas etc. Id like to be able to tame and train the mounts of invaders but i dont think this is possible as they are classed as invaders.

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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 12:17:58 pm »

OP seems a bit confused on what the tags mean. 

Taming requires the PET or PET_EXOTIC tags.  This lets you get a tame animal from an otherwise hostile critter.  All purchased animals are tame already.

Training to war/hunting animals requires the TRAINABLE, TRAINABLE_WAR, or TRAINABLE_HUNTING tag.  In 40d, only dogs had this.  In 31, you can do it on elephants, big cats, gorillas, and a few others.  Dragons don't have this tag in either version so you can't make a war dragon without mods.
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Re: Cant train my dragon :<
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 01:36:28 pm »

OP seems a bit confused on what the tags mean. 

Taming requires the PET or PET_EXOTIC tags.  This lets you get a tame animal from an otherwise hostile critter.  All purchased animals are tame already.

Training to war/hunting animals requires the TRAINABLE, TRAINABLE_WAR, or TRAINABLE_HUNTING tag.  In 40d, only dogs had this.  In 31, you can do it on elephants, big cats, gorillas, and a few others.  Dragons don't have this tag in either version so you can't make a war dragon without mods.
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