Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Josephus]

Alright, in an effort to further perpetuate this unresolvable disagreement using a insultingly simplistic analogy:

Let's say they made a Lassie adaptation. Except instead of a collie, they cast lassie as a beagle. It's not an change to the integral core of the character, Lassie can still be a dog and run around and save Timmy and shit. Does that make it an arbitrary distinction? No. Lassie is a fucking collie.

A beagle is a smaller dog. Lassie as a Golden Retriever instead of a Collie would be a better metaphor.

I also would have no problem with that.

I would certainly have a problem with that. As previously stated, Lassie is a fucking collie. Lassie not being a collie shows slack and a lack of devotion to the original art on the part of the producers.

In other words, "They Changed It, Now It Sucks" is not always unjustified.

[Creaca]

Lassie isn't a great analogy to begin with. Mostly because Lassie wouldn't being reimagined to reflect a larger diversity in Lassie's target audience. When you write fiction with people however..

It's not like this hasn't been done before. Ultimate Marvel Spiderman, 1602 Marvel Spiderman, Marvel Zombies.

In other words, Change isn't always scary.

[Enzo]

Lassie isn't a great analogy to begin with. Mostly because Lassie wouldn't being reimagined to reflect a larger diversity in Lassie's target audience.

I sort of don't understand what that means. Spiderman should be black because people who aren't white like spiderman?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Lassie isn't a great analogy to begin with. Mostly because Lassie wouldn't being reimagined to reflect a larger diversity in Lassie's target audience.

I sort of don't understand what that means. Spiderman should be black because people who aren't white like spiderman?

I think that would be exactly what he's saying. Dosen't make it not stupid, though.

[fenrif]

Lassie isn't a great analogy to begin with. Mostly because Lassie wouldn't being reimagined to reflect a larger diversity in Lassie's target audience.

I sort of don't understand what that means. Spiderman should be black because people who aren't white like spiderman?

Basically.

[Josephus]

Lassie isn't a great analogy to begin with. Mostly because Lassie wouldn't being reimagined to reflect a larger diversity in Lassie's target audience.

I sort of don't understand what that means. Spiderman should be black because people who aren't white like spiderman?

Basically.

So, what we're saying now is that black people can't enjoy a movie about a white guy?

Because, fuck, that's just dumb.

[Retro]

I think it might be a good time to drop the Lassie analogy and pretend it never happened.

[Creaca]

Hey, it's the reason the new Batwoman is a lesbian. I searched in vain for the quote from Marvel that confirmed this, but it someone else wants to track it down that'd be great.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I think it might be a good time to drop the Lassie analogy and pretend it never happened.

The Lassie analogy that has so far been unrefuted?

[Hyperturtle]

Spiderman should be Chinese.  Then the song can go "China-man, China-man"  And he'd have five billion new fans.

[Creaca]

The Lassie analogy that has so far been unrefuted?

Let me take the Lassie Analogy and replace 'Lassie' with 'Spiderman', 'collie' as 'White Guy', 'beagle' as 'Black Guy', 'Timmy' with 'Mary Jane', and 'dog' with 'Super Hero'. That way, it won't have to be an analogy at all.

Let's say they made a Spiderman adaptation. Except instead of a White Guy, they cast Spiderman as a Black Guy. It's not an change to the integral core of the character, Spiderman can still be a Super Hero and run around and save Mary Jane and shit. Does that make it an arbitrary distinction? No. Spiderman is a fucking White Guy.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Spiderman should be Chinese.  Then the song can go "China-man, China-man"  And he'd have five billion new fans.

Who's government would promptly re-write history so that we stole the idea of China-man from them.

[Enzo]

The Lassie analogy that has so far been unrefuted?

Let me take the Lassie Analogy and replace 'Lassie' with 'Spiderman', 'collie' as 'White Guy', 'beagle' as 'Black Guy', 'Timmy' with 'Mary Jane', and 'dog' with 'Super Hero'. That way, it won't have to be an analogy at all.

Let's say they made a Spiderman adaptation. Except instead of a White Guy, they cast Spiderman as a Black Guy. It's not an change to the integral core of the character, Spiderman can still be a Super Hero and run around and save Mary Jane and shit. Does that make it an arbitrary distinction? No. Spiderman is a fucking White Guy.

So...what you're saying is that it's a perfect analogy? Glad we're on the same page here.

Lassie is a fucking collie.

[Retro]

I think it might be a good time to drop the Lassie analogy and pretend it never happened.

The Lassie analogy that has so far been unrefuted?

The Lassie analogy that somehow ended up becoming "Black people won't watch movies about white guys" over the course of a few posts there. Though, I don't think it works anyhow because border collies are typically portrayed (and popularized by Lassie) as being super helpful and smart and caring and such, thus making Lassie be a border collie important (esp. after the success of the show made everyone commonly associate all border collies with such characteristics). Whereas as far as I know Spiderman's whiteness has never been important to who he is as a character, thus why I don't see changing it as completely out of the question.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Being Spiderman dosen't depend on whiteness, but being Peter Parker does. Like I said before, the man is an utter walking stereotype of a white socialy inept nerd.