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[Bronze Dog]

I've been getting better at DF, and have been working on making better floor plans. For 40d, I've read it's best to have sleeping quarters about 9 levels below the surface, so that they aren't disturbed by the sound of woodcutting or combat on the surface. The problem is that's about where caverns start in 2010. Is it really worth it to keep my average dwarf's quarters that deep, or is the noise not worth the trouble?

[K4el]

I've been getting better at DF, and have been working on making better floor plans. For 40d, I've read it's best to have sleeping quarters about 9 levels below the surface, so that they aren't disturbed by the sound of woodcutting or combat on the surface. The problem is that's about where caverns start in 2010. Is it really worth it to keep my average dwarf's quarters that deep, or is the noise not worth the trouble?

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Noise

40d info should still be relevant here.

[sonerohi]

Noise issues are barely anything. A decent meal or drink is stronger than the bad thought from it, and unless a workshop is directly above the bedroom in question, with 9 floors between, the sound won't reach them. Also,  I don't think the combat noise spreads as far as workshops.

[Werdna]

I generally found that if you make bedrooms too far from things that make noise, the result ends up being dwarves more frequently sleeping on the ground near their activity zones, generating slept-on-ground thoughts instead of noise-thoughts.  So now I provide bedrooms close to everything, even beds near workshops, and just focus on providing them high quality rooms or beds or chests or what not to offset noise-thoughts.  While a bedroom has a chance to generate a noise-thought, it also has multiple chances to generate happy thoughts from the objects and quality, so I think concentrating on making them extremely accessible and high quality is the best compromise.

[InsanityPrelude]

According to the wiki, workshops don't actually make noise right now anyway.

[Hyndis]

In hell.

 



I was assuming the thread was referring to tombs just from the title.

[Tcei]

I generally have my living quarters set up within a z-lvl or two of the workshops level. I rarely notice a noise thought, and even then like has been said its a relatively minor bad thought. Now that I think about it the only time I notice a noise thought is very early in my fort when I tend to keep all the sleeping/working/ect all clustered together in a small area while I dig out the rest of the fort.

[Bronze Dog]

Alright. Guess I'll be compacting my fort levels, then. Guess my next task is to figure out how to organize during expansion, and where to put the dinner hall before creating the obsidian cast one in my hourglass megastructure. Planning on having it be filled with black bronze furniture, since I like the dark purple with the dark gray of obsidian.

As for graveyards, I'd probably stick the nobles who annoy me in cheap coffins down near the lava sea near their fiendish bretheren, rather than the elaborate tombs they were promised in life. (Those go to the dwarves who actually contribute.)

[Zebra2]

The most prevalent DF myth: workshops create noise.

[InsanityPrelude]

As deep as you can go is more dwarfy, in any case.

[CppThis]

Bear in mind, the deeper you go the closer youll be to caverns and caverns = trees.

I havent really noticed many noise thoughts though, if any.  Maybe it was nurfed in .31 or something.

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

next to the lava caverns

[Coronel_Niel]

Because noise goes down and accross in a box, go down the Z level diagonally

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N is Noise/Fort (most of the fort makes noise, like moving stuff ect) and B is bedrooms. This should work quiet well, haven't tried it.

[tastypaste]

Even if your bedroom is three z-levels below the workshop, you shouldn't have an problems with noise. So if your workshops are on the first layer below the surface, your bedrooms can be on the fourth and your dwarfs will be happy.

[Halo]

Workshops do not make noise.

Workshops do not make noise. No, really.

There are two real sources of noise you really need to worry about, the first is eating, which is only like one or two squares. So long as you don't have table | wall | bed it's not a big deal.

The other is building furniture/digging/smoothing/engraving. With the possible exception of furniture, each one of these only has to be done once, but they have to be done everywhere. Also, they cause noise 16 tiles in every direction. To always avoid them you'd have to have the bedrooms very far away. It's really not worth caring about.

Review: Do workshops make noise? No, they do not