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[ToonyMan]

I think everyone who wanted internet already has it, or is this middleclass white boy talking?

Because if you aren't exposed to something then how would you know about it?

[Nikov]

Duuvian, what I'm saying is that he isn't a propagandist. Your first post on the subject of the video betrays your knee-jerk reaction to an ideology you don't like. You are also demonstrating why internet access isn't making you smarter, its just making you defensive.

[Grakelin]

I think everyone who wanted internet already has it, or is this middleclass white boy talking?

Because if you aren't exposed to something then how would you know about it?

I think it's middle class white boy talking. Lots of people want internet and can't get it. Even in rural regions of developed nations.

[Realmfighter]

I live in one of the poorer parts of my city, and everyone at my school has internet.

[Grakelin]

I think everyone who wanted internet already has it, or is this middleclass white boy talking?

Because if you aren't exposed to something then how would you know about it?

I think it's middle class white boy talking. Lots of people want internet and can't get it. Even in rural regions of developed nations.

I live in one of the poorer parts of my city, and everyone at my school has internet.

I'd also probably question what city you live in. Not that it's important. Let me show you a major region where people aren't as likely to have internet but crave the knowledge contained within.

Spoiler: Highlighted in Yellow For You (click to show/hide)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Spoiler: Highlighted in Yellow For You (click to show/hide)

*GASP* They have internet in the open seas of the Atlantic!? Why wasn't I told!?

[Grakelin]

What are you talking about. Your comment doesn't have anything to do with anything and doesn't even make sense.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What are you talking about. Your comment doesn't have anything to do with anything and doesn't even make sense.

The graph says the yellow areas don't have internet. Thus, the white areas do. The entire Atlantic is in white.

[ToonyMan]

Only half of Santa's workshop gets internet access!

:O

[Duuvian]

I think everyone who wanted internet already has it, or is this middleclass white boy talking?

Because if you aren't exposed to something then how would you know about it?

Through internet? If you're saying it's because people in Africa don't know about the internet, that's a pretty shameless generalization. Even if they might not know about the internet, they, a neighbor, or relative have probably have seen telephones or computers by now and realized by now. Besides, you're forgetting again that it would be optional. You wouldn't have to hook up if you want to live a certain type of lifestyle. Also, there would still be libraries for when they do want to connect and still be a nomad or whatever.

Also, how did you guess I was middle class and white? Also, what is it with the crude generalizations? My family raises a lot of our own food by farming but we have a modest home, a TV, and computers for all. My dad works 5 days a week as a State employee at a Historical area in the Summer only. During the Winter he works through an employment agency running machinery despite having a Bachelors in Chemistry and a career spent as an engineer designing various products (mostly various industrial filters and the machines that built them). That doesn't mean I, who may exercise my own free will, can't go to the local city, use my computer skills and my laptop to produce music with people there (for free I might add), and learn at least a little about how they live. This is another argument I'm not going to get into other than these few sentences.

Duuvian, what I'm saying is that he isn't a propagandist. Your first post on the subject of the video betrays your knee-jerk reaction to an ideology you don't like. You are also demonstrating why internet access isn't making you smarter, its just making you defensive.

Not even going to bother. You know I could argue this silly argument over how you're taking what I write out of context on purpose because you can't be bothered to provide documentation that I can't pick to pieces, but I'm not going to. I guess I just don't agree with you that disagreeing with things that I think are wrong is somehow inappropriate. I should just believe you because he and you say so; despite being able to find things on the internet and books to the contrary? That's what this thread was started for and I smugly congratulate you on helping to prove my point. We are both enlightened as to each others beliefs, and the people who read this thread will possibly allow themselves to be influenced by our thoughts here. That certainly constitutes being less ignorant. I suppose it's up to you to decide whether the lack of ignorance is a part of being smart or intelligent and how much of a component it is.

[Deathworks]

Hi!

The baby debate does not go against my point, which is: Bigotry is, if you analyze it, a concept that does not work in the long term. No bigoted group has ever succeeded in establishing a stable and happy society for any useful period of time. That should be ample warning about how foolish bigotry is.

With this in mind, I want to point out that I consider intelligence to mean that you realize irrational and stupid instinctual behavior and actively work against it. Of course, there is an inherent tendency towards prejudices as they basically make it easier to evaluate things. But that is where intelligent begins - that you realize that relying on this "obvious answer" actually exposes you to inefficiency and unnecessary risks.

Deathworks

[Nikov]

Getting really defensive, so I'll just back on out of this flame war. Never heard of someone call Stanford a propaganda organ before.

[Muz]

I think everyone who wanted internet already has it, or is this middleclass white boy talking?

Because if you aren't exposed to something then how would you know about it?

Through internet? If you're saying it's because people in Africa don't know about the internet, that's a pretty shameless generalization. Even if they might not know about the internet, they, a neighbor, or relative have probably have seen telephones or computers by now and realized by now.

That's a shameless generalization too. Plenty of urban Africans have good internet access. The rural ones, not so. I was in college with a lot of kids from a rural background, they talked with about the Internet like it's some sort of exotic thing. "Internet is the kind of knowledge of that is difficult to learn but when you know it, it becomes easier to learn." Those guys struggled with it in their first 2 weeks of class and were astounded by my ability to type without looking at the keyboard. 3 years later, some of them are Facebook addicts.

Now those kids weren't very rural at all. They knew about Internet because of many city friends and lived in a country where parts of the city plan to connect fiber optic broadband directly to houses. Imagine a true third world country where people still collect their water from wells. They might not have TV access, much less Internet access and if they know someone who spoke of it, it'd be the local rich merchant who actually owns a vehicle and drives several kilometers to towns.

[Firehound]

If the internet became free america would become at least three times as stupid. possibly four if we really tried.

[Zangi]

If the internet became free america would become at least three times as stupid. possibly four if we really tried.

Truth. 
The average IQ of America is going to drop at least 20 points.

On another note, I suspect the online porn industry would gain a massive boost in revenue.