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Toady One

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2006, 03:52:00 am »

It's baaaasically the end-game, with one bit that you are missing passed the pits.  Ballista bolts work a lot of the time.  When you say iron, were the drafties also armored?  Waiting until you spar quite a lot before you go can help, since part of the problem with the demons is that they have some skill, and a squad of half-decent marksdwarves could probably do some of that over-powered adventure mode damage if you've got 10 or so opening up on the demons with some sacrifice melee guys stopping them for a bit.  It's tough, though, quite tough.  A cheap cave-in trap, properly timed could also get some with a bit of luck.
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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2006, 04:11:00 am »

I met them. 3 of them. In the end, one of the horrors destroyed my floodgate at the river, which, since the channel was just in a corridor, blocked him - he could NOT pass over the water. I wanted one of my dwarves to dig an hole so the horror could come and get what he deserved - he was wounded, he had even lost an hand(I think it was my sheriff, who died that way), while another demon had been CUT IN HALF when reachign the river - though I had no trap and that seemed to be the only wound that monster had - possibly a critical, though I had the feeling that particular horror was the weakest one in the trio. So, in the end, my dwarves were too depressed, and wanted to drink from the river inside, but since the breaking of the floodgate had blocked them inside, and they kept wanting to drink from the river but didn't muster enough  strength to dig through TWO squares of wall...I abandoned the fortress. Shame that, when I used reclaim, the monsters weren't still there. I guess I'll just have to dig.

Oh, by the way, for making the steel bridge, I'd suggest using 5 bars to make a one-square wide one - otherwise you would REALLY waste too much material,

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Dirty Frank

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2006, 04:17:00 am »

How do you set up a cave-in trap? I was planning on using a series of flood traps, but they're so dangerous, they can end the world!
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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2006, 04:59:00 am »

connect supports to a lever or pressure plate

do the demons set off plates or do they ignore them like traps?

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Toady One

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2006, 05:03:00 am »

You'll have to use a lever for the cave-in trap on them.

It's odd that the demons didn't stay in the cave.  They should have made it their new home.

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2006, 05:38:00 am »

Ouch, thats going to make the timing really difficult. Whay do they ignore traps and plates? Do they walk on the ceiling or something?
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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2006, 06:02:00 am »

They've been killing dwarves for thousands of years and know all their tricks.  Even though the world is only ~1050 years old.
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Rollory

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2006, 06:55:00 am »

Do demons dig?

If not: long hallway, only exits are at the end.  Let the demons get into the hallway.  Cave in the near end so they don't get out, cave in the far end so they can't retreat, then systematically trigger cave-ins all along the length.

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2006, 08:31:00 am »

Cave-ins don't completely fill in an area though, but a really huge collapsable section would ease the timing issues.
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Arcanum

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2006, 11:57:00 am »

I haven't made it to the horrors yet (I think I will with my current game, though).  I have some thoughts anyway.

The horrors can't cross water, right?  And dwarves can cross empty channels?  So you prepare a long, winding tunnel with channels blocking each end.  You have a switch somewhere far away (but still in a populated area) that when pulled fills the channels with water.  Wait until the horrors are in the hallway and pull the lever.  The horrors are now trapped.

How you prepare to deal with the horrors after they're trapped is up to you, but I like the idea of using the water you already pumped over there to down the suckers.  You might need additional channels and doors if channels with water in them don't block floods.  If the horrors aren't immune to fire/lava, you could do something similar along those lines, though it would require a lot of steel and such.

Edit:  You'll almost certainly lose some dwarves to "friendly fire" using this method, but even that can be mitigated if you partition your killing zone properly and let the different partitions be selectively flooded.

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2006, 12:23:00 am »

The first time I broke through I was just screwing around.  First thing out of the pit got brained by my Legendary Miner's pick.  Second thing ate him alive.

Good to know that they aren't infinite, though, I'm going to try seriously with my current hueg dungeon.

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2006, 01:12:00 am »

Idea. A ways before the pit, set up a flood trap. Your miner goes in, Through a door, You forbid, Then flood, The door on that side blocks the flood, when he hits the pit, He fights until he dies, then the demons hit the door, and all die.
just my thoughts.
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HY DO THE DOGS KEEP EXPLODING?

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2006, 01:34:00 am »

Don't put all your hopes in flooding. After the demons had made it over the river and killed all of my fighting dwarves, I flooded everything out of desperation. It seemed to kill the fire demons just fine, but the frog demons were completely unaffected.
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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2006, 01:39:00 am »

can frog demons cross the river of magma? if they can't... dual FLOODS!  magma right behind the water.
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HY DO THE DOGS KEEP EXPLODING?

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Re: Horrors from the deep
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2006, 01:42:00 am »

I think all the demons just walked over the lava without a problem.
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