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Favorite Black and White Starter Creature

Tiger
- 33 (37.5%)
Cow
- 10 (11.4%)
Ape
- 23 (26.1%)
Mandrill
- 3 (3.4%)
Horse
- 9 (10.2%)
Gorilla
- 2 (2.3%)
Leopard
- 8 (9.1%)

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Moogie

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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #180 on: June 07, 2010, 11:12:02 am »

Start the Lobby app and click Start Server. You need ports 6012 and 2612 forwarded to be able to host. Then give us your external IP address and port number (default is 6012, if you change it, you need to change that port forwarding as well).

That's where my knowledge ends. I don't know if you also need to load up the Client app. I've never hosted before, and my attempts to host a game for own use failed because I have no idea how to actually make a room.

IF you do, you probably need to configure it with your IP/port details, then click Start B&W.
IF not, try just loading up B&W as normal and going to the LAN lobby.

You might not see anything until one of us arrives and joins. I'unno.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #181 on: June 07, 2010, 11:16:47 am »

Ah well thats the problem. I don't have access to forward my ports and only 2612 is forwarded. If anyone has hamachi we can play but you will need to join my network and use my hamachi IP to join pheonix...

EDIT: It appears that I have to join my own server using the Client. Also, B&W Multiplayer works really weird. Basicly, you cannot "create" a room. Everyone that is in your lan (real of virtual) shows up in a list with NAME(NUMBER). The number denotes how many players are in a room with them. One means only them, 2 means them and someone else, etc. A room only occurs when, lets say, URIST(1) clicks join on URISTMCFARMER(1). Thats when you get the screen that shows the 4 gods available and you can choose maps. URIST's name is removed from the list and URISTMCFARMER's name is now URISTMCFARMER(2).
« Last Edit: June 07, 2010, 11:23:42 am by Mono124 »
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #182 on: June 07, 2010, 11:19:38 am »

I'll just wait for PGGT. :P
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #183 on: June 07, 2010, 11:28:53 am »

So... anyway, a better representation is more like this. You have set up your lan or used pheonix and all four players are in the lan list. We will name them players 1, 2, 3, and 4 (real original huh?).

Player 1 sees this:

Player 2(1)
Player 3(1)
Player 4(1)

Player 2 sees this:

Player 1(1)
Player 3(1)
Player 4(1)

Player 3 sees this:

Player 1(1)
Player 2(1)
Player 4(1)

Player 4 sees this:

Player 1(1)
Player 2(1)
Player 3(1)

Ok, now lets assume Player 1 is the one that is supposed to be hosting... so Player 2 joins his game. Player 1 and Player 2 are on the screen that lets you choose what side you want to be on and what map you want to play. Player 3 and Player 4 are still on the lan list, and...

Player 3 sees:

Player 1(2)
Player 4(1)

Player 4 sees:

Player 1(2)
Player 3(1)

They both join Player 1 and now the lan list (from an observers view) would show:

Player 1(4)

They then start the game after picking sides and all of the sudden.... SYNCHRONIZATION ERROR OH NOES!! What does this mean? It means that you are not in sync with the game OR another player is not in sync with the game. So... you may have just megablast extremed their temple, but on THEIR side nothing has happened. Most of the time with a sync error everyone leaves and remakes the game.

EDIT: I am going to CCleaner my computer and wipe my free harddrive space so I won't be able to check the forums for a bit so....\

EDIT2: PTTG is MIA?
« Last Edit: June 07, 2010, 03:21:19 pm by Mono124 »
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #184 on: June 07, 2010, 03:48:31 pm »

Haven't head from him...  :'(
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #185 on: June 07, 2010, 04:14:54 pm »

Probably not very easy to set up these games on weekdays. We can wait 'til Friday, or if we all just happen to be around at the same time, but that's unlikely.

Also, we need more players. Specifically, ones that can host. :P
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #186 on: June 07, 2010, 05:11:10 pm »

I'm at work all week... and part of the weekend. Yeah, we need someone in some other timezones who can host.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #187 on: June 07, 2010, 09:36:03 pm »

I played B&W for more than 14 hours today... WTF is wrong with me?
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #188 on: June 07, 2010, 09:53:03 pm »

The only thing wrong with that is that you could've been playing Dwarf Fortress instead.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #189 on: June 08, 2010, 04:21:44 am »

While waiting to meet his friends again, Bastion has been steadily growing and learning.

Yesterday I created an 8-bit colour tattoo of a castle tower to make him more recognisable online:



He's been getting into more fights lately. He started off good, but he seems to be thinking about his actions more now. He's too hesitant, moves around a lot. But with some more training he should get back on track. Long-legged Creatures such as the wolf do best when they are aggressive.

He's also getting the hang of distinguishing between my property/villagers, neutral ones, and enemy towns. Around my influence he is a gentle giant, eager to please. But he'll occasionally wander off and try to impress the neutrals. If he finds himself in enemy territory, he conjures up lightning storms and eats the villagers. :D
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #190 on: June 08, 2010, 08:00:18 am »

Never having played with it, i have read that B&W1 features a skirmish mode with the CPU.
As the fun in strategy solo skirmish is very dependant on how well the CPU is coded, is it enjoyable, or is the CPU too dumb to be fun to play with ?
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #191 on: June 08, 2010, 08:27:47 am »

Never having played with it, i have read that B&W1 features a skirmish mode with the CPU.
As the fun in strategy solo skirmish is very dependant on how well the CPU is coded, is it enjoyable, or is the CPU too dumb to be fun to play with ?

Honestly I have to say no. CPU gods in B&W1 aren't very aggressive. They also cheat; grabbing trees from your side of the map, even when their influence is nowhere near big enough to legitimately do so.

They generally take over towns closest to their temple first, keeping their creature leashed to village centres doing mundane things. Eventually they will expand towards you and try taking your villages too, with the help of their creature.

If your creature nears their villages, the god will hurl rocks, trees, fireballs and thunder at you. It'll also leash its creature to you, to provoke creature battles. And yes, they are stupid enough to throw fireballs and cast thunder when you are standing in the middle of their village, which usually results in them wiping out their own population.

This is why people prefer to play B&W online. :)
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #192 on: June 08, 2010, 08:30:38 am »

Thanks for the answer.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #193 on: June 08, 2010, 11:30:30 am »

Never having played with it, i have read that B&W1 features a skirmish mode with the CPU.
As the fun in strategy solo skirmish is very dependant on how well the CPU is coded, is it enjoyable, or is the CPU too dumb to be fun to play with ?

And yes, they are stupid enough to throw fireballs and cast thunder when you are standing in the middle of their village, which usually results in them wiping out their own population.

This is why people prefer to play B&W online. :)

I do that sometimes... I zoom in though so it only targets the creature (a large portion of the time... I'd assume 9/10 of the time)
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #194 on: June 08, 2010, 11:58:22 am »

But I bet you're not still firing at that spot 10 seconds after the threat has left. :)
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