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Favorite Black and White Starter Creature

Tiger
- 33 (37.5%)
Cow
- 10 (11.4%)
Ape
- 23 (26.1%)
Mandrill
- 3 (3.4%)
Horse
- 9 (10.2%)
Gorilla
- 2 (2.3%)
Leopard
- 8 (9.1%)

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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2010, 07:54:30 pm »

Uh... what is your IP and the port you will be hosting on?

EDIT: Anyway, for the sake of the thread, what do you hate most about black and white? I hate the fact that when you do something in skirmish mode it reflects on your temple in multi player etc.... I didn't realize that, so I decided to torch my 400 worshipers in skirmish mode... Couldn't say spikes fast enough.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2010, 08:01:41 pm by Mono124 »
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #91 on: June 04, 2010, 08:01:02 pm »

I'm hooking it up now. My Wi-fi card died unexpectedly, then my router crashed and had to be rebooted, but I have a few hundred feet of CAT5 lying around and I hooked my computer up... I think it's almost working now.

The Lobby is at 75.208.44.183 : 6012.

I seeeee you. Starting the game now.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #92 on: June 04, 2010, 08:03:38 pm »

Question: How do I set my nickname?

EDIT: Also in the game.

EDIT2: Game is up, you guys have about 5 minutes before we start... If you want to play after that time limit go ahead and tell us though and we will include you in the next game.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #93 on: June 04, 2010, 08:56:07 pm »

Seems I've run into a bit of a problem.

I had to use the creature changer utility to get the creature I wanted, because the trainer guy over in the corner kept saying he had nothing to offer.

Then I taught my creature a few miracles and such (Though I don't know how to get him to cast them himself) and saved and quit for the night.

When I get back on today, it's at the same time I saved, but I have a different creature and it unlearnt... *everything*

I'm on Patch 1.2 if it matters.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2010, 09:05:25 pm »

Did you use Kong? Kong does that.... yeah.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2010, 09:06:29 pm »

Kong the creature?

I used the horse.

And if you meant something else entirely then I have no idea what you're talking about.

Edit: Also it seems to be unable to relearn anything it was previously taught. The lists all stay blank and it won't learn anything. Maybe I'll just see how restarting works.
Edit2: Now that I think of it, maybe the reason the trainer said he had nothing to offer is because the unlocker never seemed to work. Is there anything that would prevent it? Or any way to make sure it worked?
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2010, 09:20:54 pm »

Kong is a creature-switching program you can use outside of Black and White.  Oddly enough, I never had any trouble with it...  sure, there were issues when I turned my creature into an ogre, but that's just because ogres weren't fully fleshed-out in the first B&W.

It also lets you set the size of creature...  Having an ape creature that's smaller than a villager is great fun, especially when he runs around kicking them to death.  Man...  Those legs moved FAST.

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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2010, 09:31:31 pm »

Oh, well. I was using the changer that was linked just a little earlier in this thread.

At any rate I still don't know how to use an unlockable without using a creature changer. I don't think the actual unlocker .exe's are working.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2010, 10:17:35 pm »

That's weird. I just did a test; starting a new game after using the creature unlocker and checked if they were offered. The man offers to change just as he is supposed to. I am using version 1.3, but it should not make any difference. I am not sure if the unlockers are version-specific however. You could try looking into this (try to update to 1.3 for example).

If everything else fail, I guess you could try reinstalling.


Edit: I just checked my unlockers' exe properties and they are marked as version 1.3. Check if it's the same with yours.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2010, 10:53:05 pm »

I see the problem. Mine says 1.1.

Now if I can just find the 1.2 version..


Edit: Nevermind, got it to not horribly screw up when using the creature changer utility.

Now I just need to figure out how to make my creature cast miracles and such instead of just knowing them.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #100 on: June 05, 2010, 12:39:26 am »

The creature mostly learn by mimicking, so while it is leashed, use whatever miracle you want it to use, then reward it when/if it mimic you. Keep in mind that it will not cast miracles unless they are needed: i.e. it won't cast food on its own if the village(s) has enough, it won't cast healing spell unless someone is low on life, etc. Unless you cast the spell yourself, it might then mimic you.

Be careful about what you do while the creature is around. If, for example, it knows the fireball spell and see you use it against an enemy village, it might initially ignore the 'enemy' part and try to mimic you... in your own village.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #101 on: June 05, 2010, 01:38:03 am »

However, it is quite possible to train your creature to recognize the difference between your villagers and their villagers, and to act accordingly.

Due to ease of use and prettiness, I'd frequently cast the upgraded healing miracle on the town center, rather than an individual peasant or random location.  As such, my creature learned to heal buildings. 

Later, when I had explained the intricacies of separating living creatures from inanimate objects, he would often expend all the time and energy to cast an upgraded healing spell to heal one pig who happened to be limping a little bit.

Odd sort.  He also happened to have an unhealthy obsession with his toy ball.

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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2010, 02:03:12 am »

Righto, right now my biggest gripe is getting him to use the food miracle to feed himself, assuming that can be done.
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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2010, 02:13:24 am »

Ah.  I think it's possible to teach them to do that, but I'm not entirely certain.

The primary concern, however, is the fact that casting miracles costs energy, so a creature will become more hungry and tired the more they exert their miraculous abilities.  There's a special lock built in that prevents creatures from casting miracles when they're too hungry or tired to get away with it easily.

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Re: Black and White: NO MR. APE DON'T MEGA BLAST MY TEMPL- bzzzzzzt.
« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2010, 02:17:31 am »

Ah, okay then.

Back to trying to make him bigger and stronger then, the gist of what I got was "carry rocks around for a while and then sleep in pen"

I assume the pen is the little fenced area infront of the temple gate.
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