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[Nilocy]

Pander, do you have a EU account?

[Micro102]

I don't believe that.

Oh, fun fact: I got to 1261 but then got dragged down by being paired with shit like a Tank Kennen. Now I'm back to 1257 because of being matched AGAINST players like that.

Yeah I know, it's called Elo Hell.

I thought you had guys to play with though? Solo queue and arranged team ranked are different things though.

Basically, all the noobs drag each other down, if your good, you will win a game that should have been lost and you will go up.

[umiman]

How to tell when someone is an annoying whiner.

He talks a lot in the pre game match up. The chances will increase if he plays a carry-type.

[Pandarsenic]

How to tell when someone is an annoying whiner.

He talks a lot in the pre game match up. The chances will increase if he plays a carry-type.

Not always. I try to help organize my team comp. I start by volunteering to play Singed (Builds almost-full-tank, ends up as Tanky DPS. Closest thing I need to a damage item is a Rod of Ages) and asking if anyone wants to jungle as a specific champion, advising good counterpicks, etc.

And sorry, no EU account for me. I have super-low ping on the US servers since I'm in California.

[Jopax]

Yeah, i usually try and do that to, a tank, some deeps, perhaps some AP champs and if possible a support or a jungler.

Anyways, i've got myself a hunger for some AP champs, know any good ones?

[Jar of Jam]

Yeah, i usually try and do that to, a tank, some deeps, perhaps some AP champs and if possible a support or a jungler.

Anyways, i've got myself a hunger for some AP champs, know any good ones?

Ugh, just yesterday I got steamrolled by an AP Kog'Maw. Really, really painful. The range on his abilities is stupendous.

[Pandarsenic]

Just won another Ranked.

I'm a pretty beast Singed.

[Micro102]

All tanks are simply OP. Or more so tank items.

[Nilocy]

I was having good fun as Shen last night.

I counter jungled fiddlesticks rather well, shame we ended up losing that match.

All tanks are simply OP. Or more so tank items.

All damage items are simple OP as well. Man, I absolutely hate dying.

[Micro102]

I was having good fun as Shen last night.

I counter jungled fiddlesticks rather well, shame we ended up losing that match.

All tanks are simply OP. Or more so tank items.

All damage items are simple OP as well. Man, I absolutely hate dying.

106
Because of the change to the way armor and MR work, pen items and abilities aren't effective against them anymore.


Take last whisper for example. tank with 4000 health and 200 armor, squishy with 2000 health and 50 armor. Tank takes an extra 11.5 % damage while the squishy takes 10.2% extra damage. that 40% pen does not effect tanks at all. Depending on the ratios a tank can even make it more effective on a squishy. Having twice as much health as a squishy with the same risk from a supposed anti tank item is just wrong.
 
Black clever and brutalizer, solid pen items without a % effect, are even worse against tanks. You should never buy them to fight tanks. Madreds are the most effective item against tanks, but it's really not hard for a tank to see it then buy more MR then make the madreds a very expensive toy.

[eerr]

Karthus is SO MUCH FUN.

Karthus & Veliaf otp.

GO TEAM MAGICAL BASTARDS.

[Micro102]

Karthus is SO MUCH FUN.

Karthus & Veliaf otp.

GO TEAM MAGICAL BASTARDS.

Banshee's veil.

[Nilocy]

I was having good fun as Shen last night.

I counter jungled fiddlesticks rather well, shame we ended up losing that match.

All tanks are simply OP. Or more so tank items.

All damage items are simple OP as well. Man, I absolutely hate dying.

106
Because of the change to the way armor and MR work, pen items and abilities aren't effective against them anymore.


Take last whisper for example. tank with 4000 health and 200 armor, squishy with 2000 health and 50 armor. Tank takes an extra 11.5 % damage while the squishy takes 10.2% extra damage. that 40% pen does not effect tanks at all. Depending on the ratios a tank can even make it more effective on a squishy. Having twice as much health as a squishy with the same risk from a supposed anti tank item is just wrong.
 
Black clever and brutalizer, solid pen items without a % effect, are even worse against tanks. You should never buy them to fight tanks. Madreds are the most effective item against tanks, but it's really not hard for a tank to see it then buy more MR then make the madreds a very expensive toy.

When ever I play a DPS character I always have my armour pen runes out. With a full set of reds, not much I give you, but decently worth it at the beginning of a game.
 
You end up doing full damage to minions and when it comes to characters with low armour at the beginning its like you doing about 5ish more damage to them per shot.

But when it comes to tanky characters if they're buying a load of tank items, just don't attack them. Its the way I play, always go for the tanks last unless they're really scary like an AP singed or something.

With tanks, you gotta give the enemy team a reason to hit you or else you're not doing your job properly, for example, building a rageblade on cho'gath, or madreds on shen or something retarded like that. Then once they fear you and start focusing you _then_ your tanky items will be doing their job.

[Lumbajak]

So I played Yi for the first time in ages.

Got a pentakill.

Yep.

[SalmonGod]

But when it comes to tanky characters if they're buying a load of tank items, just don't attack them. Its the way I play, always go for the tanks last unless they're really scary like an AP singed or something.

With tanks, you gotta give the enemy team a reason to hit you or else you're not doing your job properly, for example, building a rageblade on cho'gath, or madreds on shen or something retarded like that. Then once they fear you and start focusing you _then_ your tanky items will be doing their job.

This is my complaint, though.  All the tanks in the game do considerable damage naturally, or otherwise contribute to the fight in ways that make them impossible to ignore, unless you're another tank.