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[Jordrake]

Threw [SYN_INHALED] in there, and it can now actually kill a cat. Just. It can defend itself from little creatures and run from big ones.
I'm calling this a success for now. Once we get a little further, I'll adjust it as I see fit. Right, any suggestions for more additions (Bearing in mind that I'm already working on an insect civ)? Creatures will be the bread and butter of this mod, but any other additions would be neat, so share any ideas you have.

[Jordrake]

I'll be starting on some giant grasshoppers and bumblebees soon. Watch this space.

[Knight Otu]

I've taken a closer look at the mod, and noticed a few errors:

One, the body_insectoid file is missing the proper header:

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body_insect

[OBJECT:BODY]
Two, you are trying to give color to the insects' SKIN. That should be CHITIN in all cases. Also, in the big butterfly, you have [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:WING:ALL], which should be [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:WING:CHITIN].

Three, in the guard beetle and decipede, you have

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[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:MANDIBLES]which should be

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[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:MANDIBLE]In the decipede, you also mistyped LARGE_MANDIBLES as LARGE_MANDIBLE.

There also seems to be something wrong with the big butterfly's wing attack, but I can't find the root cause of that one, except that it appears to lurk in 4WINGS.

[Lofn]

I had some fun with a playable insect civ with a 1:4 ratio of breeders to sterile drones.  The drones were unintelligent and butcherable for food.  It was an interesting change from normal DF - maybe you could consider doing something similar.

[Jordrake]

I was debating what to do with castes for my insect civ, that sounds like a good idea.

[Jordrake]

ZOMG Update!!

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[CREATURE:KLIK]
[DESCRIPTION:A medium-sized insectoid with an exclusive nature.]
[NAME:klik:kliks:kliken]
[CREATURE_TILE:'K'][COLOR:3:0:0]
[INTELLIGENT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[BENIGN]
[PREFSTRING:looming stance][PREFSTRING:clicking mandibles]
[SPEECH:elf.txt]
[PERSONALITY:IMAGINATION:0:55:100]
[PERSONALITY:ARTISTIC_INTEREST:0:60:100]
[PERSONALITY:INTELLECTUAL_CURIOSITY:0:55:100]
[PERSONALITY:SELF_DISCIPLINE:5:70:100]
[PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:0:50:100]
        [PERSONALITY:STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS:0:60:100]
        [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:40:90]
        [PERSONALITY:GREGARIOUSNESS:0:30:60]
        [NOBONES]
[BODY:INSECTOID:2EYES:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:BRAIN:3FINGERS:LARGE_MANDIBLES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_MATERIALS]
        [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CHITIN_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RELSIZES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:ICHOR:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:500:950:1250:1450:1600:1850:2250]               +
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]          +
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]  +++
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:INTUITION:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]             +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:150:600:800:900:1000:1100:1500]                -
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:MEMORY:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000]              max
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]  +++
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]         +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:MUSICALITY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]            +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:700:1200:1400:1500:1600:1800:2500]    ++
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:EMPATHY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]               +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:450:750:1000:1150:1350:1550:1700]      +
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:168:15000]
[BODY_SIZE:12:0:60000]
        [BODY_SIZE:20:0:100000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CLOSE_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:ROUND_VS_NARROW:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LARGE_IRIS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:NECK]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:RASPY_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
[ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:punch:punches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK:KICK:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:STANCE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:kick:kicks]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK:SCRATCH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:GRASP:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:NAIL]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:scratch:scratches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:MANDIBLE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[BABY:1]
[CHILD:12]
[EQUIPS]
[DIURNAL]
[HOMEOTHERM:NONE]
[SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:3:DARK_GREEN:1:TAUPE_DARK:1:SEPIA:1:MIDNIGHT_BLUE:1:TAUPE_PURPLE:1:TAUPE_MEDIUM:1:SLATE_GRAY:1:CHARCOAL:1:DARK_VIOLET:1:TAUPE_PALE:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:IRIS_EYE_AQUAMARINE:1:IRIS_EYE_AZURE:1:IRIS_EYE_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_CERULEAN:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_DARK_OLIVE:1:IRIS_EYE_JADE:1:IRIS_EYE_OLIVE:1:IRIS_EYE_PALE_BLUE:1:IRIS_EYE_PINE_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_SEA_GREEN:1:IRIS_EYE_TEAL:1:IRIS_EYE_AMBER:1:IRIS_EYE_GOLD:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]The bare bones of my future civ. Any comments or help are welcome.

[Captain Mayday]

Jordrake, when posting body raws, you should always put them in [ code ] [ /code] tags.
This stops [ LEFT ]  and   [ RIGHT ] from having undesirable effects.

[Jordrake]

Thanks. I shall correct my mistakes.

EDIT: Tried my creatures in arena mode of the latest versions, and the errorlog keeps spitting out a string about all the bodies being wrong. If anyone wants to take a look at that and see what might be the problem, I'd be incredibly thankful.

[Knight Otu]

What's the error log? At first glance, the body tags look good.

[Jordrake]

GUARD_BEETLE:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Token: INSECTOID
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: 2EYES
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: 2LUNGS
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: HEART
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: GUTS
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: ORGANS
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: BRAIN
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: LARGE_MANDIBLES
GUARD_BEETLE:Body Token Recognized But Could Not Connect: 2WINGS

It gives basically the same thing for all of them.

[Lofn]

The only issue there will be your INSECTOID body - the other errors are from stuff trying to connection to bodyparts that don't exist.  Make sure the INSECTOID body exists and that you haven't changed the name?

[Knight Otu]

Since you used to have that body in your body file, yeah, maybe you renamed it?

[Jordrake]

Right, moved the insectoid body bits from their own file into the main body file, that seems to have fixed the primary problem. The periphery bugs are probably within my knowledge to fix.

[Lofn]

If moving them into the body_default file fixed it, you must have either forgotten to include the body_whatever line at the very top, or made a mistake with the OBJECT:BODY token.

[Jordrake]

forgotten to include the body_whatever line at the very top

*Ka-facepalm*
My own idiocy never ceases to amaze me.