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Author Topic: Shogun 2: Total War  (Read 115080 times)

kilakan

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #585 on: April 07, 2011, 06:01:53 pm »

ya few few legendary units versus a ton of ashugari will still show as strongly favoring the legendary units.  It is by far the best total war to date.
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« Reply #586 on: April 07, 2011, 06:15:12 pm »

The AI is quirky, but i've found if you leave the ships they will sort themselves out and board. I tended to reclick which reset the ENTIRE damn process.

And i'm thinking AI takes quality into it a little now. My army outnumbered another, but the bar was in the middle because they were all samurai and I had all peasants.
Say 8 vs 8 naval battle, I line em up and order them to board the ship in front of them. two ships out of those eight border the opponent without problem while most of the others hooks(and that single hook is a retarded concept) their target and nothing else happens except they shoot arrows at each other.
And no, they do not sort themselves out.
The only thing that occasionally helps is to tell the ship to go to some faraway point and then tell them to return, and maybe it isn't stuck for no reason at all and actually leaves.

It is by far the best total war to date.
I have no complaints on land combat and agrees with that. Naval battles is fubar(Empire TW naval sucked more) and Diplomacy AI is just as retarded as ever.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #587 on: April 07, 2011, 06:33:54 pm »

In Empire's defense... it was technically realistic.
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« Reply #588 on: April 07, 2011, 06:38:21 pm »

Well we've obviously had different experiences. Imma leave it at that
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my champion is now holding his artifact crossbow by his upper left leg and still shooting with is just fine despite having no hands.
What? He's firing from the hip.

Ivefan

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #589 on: April 07, 2011, 07:14:47 pm »

In Empire's defense... it was technically realistic.
Sorry, It was quite long ago I played that so my memory is a bit vague.
But, 45 degree arc or fire(or something like it) isn't realistic. I know you could fire a broadside but the cannons should not be able to rotate.
Well, except the small cannon at the fore that some ships used.
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kilakan

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« Reply #590 on: April 07, 2011, 07:24:23 pm »

it wasn't 45 degree
it was actually on 20* or so and that was just because the shot spread a bit.  The only thing anywhere close to 45* is the grapeshot, and that shit does spread alot.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #591 on: April 07, 2011, 07:54:17 pm »

it wasn't 45 degree
it was actually on 20* or so and that was just because the shot spread a bit.  The only thing anywhere close to 45* is the grapeshot, and that shit does spread alot.
This is how I remember it as well.

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #592 on: April 07, 2011, 08:44:56 pm »

I don't understand these complaintsabout naval battles.  They're easily my favourite part of the game.

What actual issues do people have with them?
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« Reply #593 on: April 07, 2011, 08:57:30 pm »

I don't understand these complaintsabout naval battles.  They're easily my favourite part of the game.

What actual issues do people have with them?
Ships getting stuck by just being near other ships, ships not boarding and just hanging out for a few minutes before i tell them to do something else, Ships navigating like a babys first steps due to pathfinding AI.
If I tell my ships to board another ship on collision course I expect them to do so, not just throw the single hook and slowly drive past, turn a bit and then just stay there getting shot at.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #594 on: April 07, 2011, 09:05:09 pm »

I sincerely do not know what game you are playing, Ivefan.

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #595 on: April 07, 2011, 09:07:12 pm »

^ That

I've had none of those issues whatsoever.
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kilakan

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« Reply #596 on: April 07, 2011, 09:11:40 pm »

How do you guys manage to keep your generals loyal, I keep having them getting delusions of granduer, and no matter the marrige, adoption, or honor I give them they end up falling to be treatchourous.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #597 on: April 07, 2011, 09:14:17 pm »

I think that is caused by them conquering lots of provinces in a short space of time.  Either that, or conquering a lot more than the other generals.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #598 on: April 07, 2011, 09:14:50 pm »

How do you guys manage to keep your generals loyal, I keep having them getting delusions of granduer, and no matter the marrige, adoption, or honor I give them they end up falling to be treatchourous.
Stick a Metsuke on him and play with your heirs. I only use the others enough to get full points in bushido arts skill =P

A quick google says theres shogun patch 1.1 which i do not have, perhaps that makes all the difference.

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And reading on a bit it seems like the patches were just for multiplayer and localization bugs.
I'm gonna see if I can get a good replay saved on this, but now it is time for bed.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #599 on: April 07, 2011, 09:15:04 pm »

I *think*, not sure, that generals will get that trait if they start performing better than your daimyo. So if your daimyo is a fat lazy womanizer who sits in the capital munching on mochi while his hardened, super generals of almighty doom with 2000 loyal samurai under each are out in the cold rain laying siege to some ass-backward yokel Christian town... well... you get the idea. :P
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