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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #465 on: March 28, 2011, 06:30:05 pm »

Patch out. Bunch of multiplayer bug fixes including the Dishonorable Coward bug.

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #466 on: March 28, 2011, 06:37:28 pm »

...what did that bug do?
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #467 on: March 28, 2011, 06:47:11 pm »

...what did that bug do?
Gave everyone the dishonorable coward trait regardless of whether you left games or not.

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #468 on: March 28, 2011, 08:02:20 pm »

...what did that bug do?
Gave everyone the dishonorable coward trait regardless of whether you left games or not.

Oh that would be why. Thank god for that :P

Does it fix the massive freeze up the game has when the AI gets reinforcements in a siege?
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #469 on: March 28, 2011, 10:15:29 pm »

I have a question as far as strategy goes. What do you guys usually do when on the warpath? Do you clump all your forces together, leave a medium garrison in your cities and whatever's leftover using that for attack? Do you split your forces?

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #470 on: March 28, 2011, 10:25:04 pm »

I have a question as far as strategy goes. What do you guys usually do when on the warpath? Do you clump all your forces together, leave a medium garrison in your cities and whatever's leftover using that for attack? Do you split your forces?
I do:
Single strong army per offensive front.
I garrison my cities with a single ashtraygaru archer and a single ashtraygaru yari units (I know it is not ashtraygaru, I just call them that). And honestly the only reason I put them in at all is to act as repression. If I was frugal I'd move them after a year or two once the repression is no longer needed, but I am lazy and tend not to:-) I have never seen a benefit in garrisoning cities in any total war game. Why put five small armies in five cities when you can have one small army that can go relieve a siege in any one or (more likely) retake the city immediately after I lose it. Or even better have no army on defense and just use your offensive army to do it? Whats the enemy doing past your offensive screen anyways? :-)

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #471 on: March 28, 2011, 10:48:36 pm »

I usually have 2 - 4 armies per front. I rarely defend my cities with garrisons but it really depends on the strategic climate of that time.

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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #472 on: March 28, 2011, 11:09:39 pm »

I have a question as far as strategy goes. What do you guys usually do when on the warpath? Do you clump all your forces together, leave a medium garrison in your cities and whatever's leftover using that for attack? Do you split your forces?
I do:
Single strong army per offensive front.
I garrison my cities with a single ashtraygaru archer and a single ashtraygaru yari units (I know it is not ashtraygaru, I just call them that). And honestly the only reason I put them in at all is to act as repression. If I was frugal I'd move them after a year or two once the repression is no longer needed, but I am lazy and tend not to:-) I have never seen a benefit in garrisoning cities in any total war game. Why put five small armies in five cities when you can have one small army that can go relieve a siege in any one or (more likely) retake the city immediately after I lose it. Or even better have no army on defense and just use your offensive army to do it? Whats the enemy doing past your offensive screen anyways? :-)

Because a few units of ashigaru bowmen on the defending side of a siege can absolutely decimate a vastly superior army, killing many times their own number and crippling the enemy's offensive force without distracting your own.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #473 on: March 29, 2011, 01:50:18 am »

I have a question as far as strategy goes. What do you guys usually do when on the warpath? Do you clump all your forces together, leave a medium garrison in your cities and whatever's leftover using that for attack? Do you split your forces?

I remain flexible, but generally speaking in all Total War games, to include major conversion mods, I tend to roll with one major prong or clump and attempt to break the enemy in as many field battles as possible, then turn to sieges. I like to use ambushes when I can, and intercept enemy stacks as they move to push me back. Shogun is a bit harder to take your time with because of the attrition rates.

However, if I get bored I just start to zerg-rush main cities, leap-frogging with 2 or more full stacks, which is a cheap tactic, but it is effective.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #474 on: March 29, 2011, 01:51:29 am »

I tend to leave strong Garrisons and have one, maaaaaybe two, strong armies in enemy land.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #475 on: March 29, 2011, 02:14:59 am »

...what did that bug do?
Gave everyone the dishonorable coward trait regardless of whether you left games or not.

Not that the trait had any effect on anything at all anyway, really the match making system should take it into account because the only people that should end up with it are those that alt-f4 out of loosing.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #476 on: March 29, 2011, 02:32:31 am »

It's still a little buggy I think, I just got it because my opponent dropped.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #477 on: March 29, 2011, 02:39:36 am »

I have one campaigning army in the field (that is, all Samurai except for matchlock ashigaru - which will change when I get a gunsmith) with the second starting to form, and my border cities are reasonably defended with Ashigaru, with the ones behind it being less so. Naval invasions are my worst fear right now so I try and keep my navy strong.
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #478 on: March 29, 2011, 06:31:11 am »

I'm having trouble breaking out of 4 territory's. I'm Shimazu, and the Shoni gits have literally surrounded what I have left so no matter what I take something will be vulnerable.

Also, I held off an army of 3000 men with 700. I did this by charging into them. I am GOD!
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Re: Shogun 2: Total War
« Reply #479 on: March 29, 2011, 06:55:05 am »

Heh, I snuck up on Shoni while they were off fighting (and conquering) a nearby clan on the main (is-)land. Took all their three provinces on the westernmost island in two turns, with armies consisting of a general and two peasant archers, plus one backup melee unit for each army (one katana samurai for the first, and one peasant spearman unit for the other. It's ridiculously easy to take castles (of the first two levels at least, I haven't faced a bigger one yet) with just archers. You don't even have to enter it, you can just position them outside and then rain arrows down on the enemy troops within. Have only seen one unit sally forth during a battle as well, so it seems you won't hardly ever have to be afraid of that. Of course, this precludes they don't have archers within as well.
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