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[Grakelin]

Am I the only one who got sent a warning last night or what

[DrPizza]

Yes because necessities do not nor have ever existed, so clearly if it weren't for TEH EVUL PARATS everyone would be spending all of their income so some cokehead executives can buy more coke!

Yes, because the only things people spend money on are "media" and "necessities". They have no other competing interests for their cash. No other economic trade-offs to make.

How are I misunderstand facetious hyperbole?

I have no idea.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Am I the only one who got sent a warning last night or what

Threetoe came through and deleted a ton of posts here and sent warnings because people were acting in a less than civil manner. His post is somewhere around page 4 or 5, I think.

[Grakelin]

Yeah, I was there.

[DrPizza]

I WAS THERE

[Phmcw]

First of all : there is many open source software that are widly used and distributed, among them firefox, open office, vlc..

Those are perfectly good software, often superior by many aspect to their commercial counterpart.

Secondly, I thing it's mostly clear that copying a sofware is not sealing it because you have no net loss associated with it. 

Thirdly you raise like a flag the only flaw of open source software : good interface (by good I mean efficient) but sometime uneasy to use. By certain ways. For some of these sofware.
However these flaw are only important for those who don't WORK with these soft.
Those who have to work with it
When you have to write an essay, what is most efficient latex or word (or open office)?. Latex.
When you write a c++ program what do YOU use?
When you browse the web, do you use IE?

Pretending that free software aren' worth anything is just disonhest.

[DrPizza]

First of all : there is many open source software that are widly used and distributed, among them firefox, open office, vlc..

Firefox is quite widely used. OpenOffice and VLC aren't.

Those are perfectly good software, often superior by many aspect to their commercial counterpart.

I guess this superiority is why nobody buys Microsoft Office, huh!

Thirdly you raise like a flag the only flaw of open source software : good interface (by good I mean efficient) but sometime uneasy to use. By certain ways. For some of these sofware.
However these flaw are only important for those who don't WORK with these soft.
Those who have to work with it
When you have to write an essay, what is most efficient latex or word (or open office)?. Latex.

Word. Since Word is a word processor, and not a page layout/text formatting language.

When you write a c++ program what do YOU use?

Visual Studio. Costs money, but worth every penny.

When you browse the web, do you use IE?

Sometimes!

Pretending that free software aren' worth anything is just disonhest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[ThreeToe]

Blacken has been muted 3 days for trolling.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Should I just lock this? It kind of just turned into another Piracy thread. I just wanted to share a video :/

[Phmcw]

We are not talking about piracy, but copyright and it's jusification.
Basically, about right of users versus right of the autors.

[fenrif]

Should I just lock this? It kind of just turned into another Piracy thread. I just wanted to share a video :/

I suggest you transmogrify it into a TED talks post. Everyone post you favorite TED talks.

[Grakelin]

Malcolm Gladwell at TED, warning, it's 18 minutes long.

His dad is an English professor here at Waterloo.

[DrPizza]

Should I just lock this? It kind of just turned into another Piracy thread. I just wanted to share a video :/

You posted a video with a load of false and misleading claims about intellectual property law, and its relationship to certain manufactured goods industries. You then explicitly talked about how that might apply to digital objects, and how they can be exactly duplicated, etc..

In other words, this was about piracy from the very first post. Why, then, would you expect the conversation to go in any other direction?

[Grakelin]

You should watch the video again.

[DrPizza]

You should watch the video again.

I have watched the video, but it's substantially irrelevant to the things written in the first post.

1) She is flat out wrong when she says that fashion does not benefit from IP protection. A previous post that's now been deleted outlined the ways in which she is wrong. Essentially, her dismissal of design patents is flawed (design patents are abundant in many parts of the fashion industry, especially shoes), as is her failure to acknowledge other kinds of IP protection that fashion benefits from (e.g. agreements that restrict sale to only licensed retailers, which are enforceable by law, prohibitions on grey-market/parallel imports, which are enforceable by law), and I find the way she downplays trademark law to be pretty questionable too. I mean, I know she claims that the people into haute couture wouldn't be interested in knock-off goods anyway, but in practice, fashion houses can, and do, prosecute people for selling knock-offs, and they do so successfully. If, as she claimed, they shouldn't care (due to lack of overlap in their markets), why would they do this? Answer: there is more overlap than she claims.
2) The very first post raises the issue of piracy, even going so far as to acknowledge that there is a substantial difference between digital objects (that are exactly cloneable), and physical objects (that are not).
3) Software can be a great deal more artistic than she makes out. I mean, OK, one may quibble about the artistry of Microsoft Word, but Heavy Rain? That's artistic expression, through and through. Software runs a wide gamut, and one that is becoming ever wider.