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Author Topic: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero  (Read 9978 times)

Jude

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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2010, 05:57:18 pm »

I think maybe in the case of the OK bombing, the guy claimed to be a patriot but the people putting up the flag wanted to denounce his claim of patriotism and establish their own. So it's a little different, and more complicated.

How does not that same thing not apply here, just replace OK bombing with 9/11 and patriotism with Islam
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2010, 06:01:29 pm »

Because, compared to American patriots who feel that blowing up government buildings, there's a lot more Muslims who'd prefer violent Jihad against the west?

I know that I have some reservations about building a mosque near ground zero, just like most people would have a problem building a gun emporium next to Columbine. Is it that surprising that people have a problem with building something that reminds them of a tragedy? Not to mention the fact that the bloody construction was approved.


Here's something that people need to understand. America has a specific political culture, one that is adversarial and strongly supportive of individual rights. This means that there is ALWAYS someone who is willing to angrily picket absolutely anything.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2010, 06:02:31 pm »

I don't know, I guess it just seemed a little muddy to me :/

I can't explain any better than I did. Maybe it's good enough, and I just didn't get it.

This means that there is ALWAYS someone who is willing to angrily picket absolutely anything.
So true.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2010, 06:04:43 pm »

It seems to me it would be a good idea. Perhaps ask the mosque to fly a large, visible American flag. It would show Muslims that in at least one instance, the freedom to practice religion if you so choose, the American government isn't so draconian as the propaganda would have them believe. Even though I think religion does more harm then good, I am not opposed to my neighbors doing what they will with it as long as it doesn't physically harm myself or other human beings.

The ironic problem is that religious people often don't seem to believe the same thing, due to that "one true faith" illness they all seemed to have contracted over the years.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2010, 06:17:26 pm »

As long as the mosque makes it clear that they're relatively liberal and publicly condemns extremism, I'd fully support it as a step towards harmony.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2010, 06:17:26 pm »

I think perhaps flying an American flag over the mosque would give the crazy terrorist a reason to think the mosque is somehow "corrupted" or "not really holy" or something.

I guess that would be a special unit ability to ignore the Zone of Protection effect from the "respected building".
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2010, 06:19:42 pm »

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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2010, 06:24:06 pm »

Because, compared to American patriots who feel that blowing up government buildings, there's a lot more Muslims who'd prefer violent Jihad against the west?

Well there's a lot more Muslims than there are American patriots
but in any case I don't see the relevance of that

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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2010, 06:26:54 pm »

Okay, now I see the problem.  You don't believe in AMERICA.  Your faith has waned.  It's almost *gasp* HERESY.
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2010, 06:34:23 pm »

As long as the mosque makes it clear that they're relatively liberal and publicly condemns extremism, I'd fully support it as a step towards harmony.

The irony of this is that the Americans who are the most likely to be offended by the mosque don't have a problem with extremism, as long as it's a type that serves them well or suits their ire. How many "death to Islam" types really care much about how many civilian targets get bombed in US military action in the Middle East, for instance? Hell, some of them probably want that.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2010, 06:36:22 pm »

As long as the mosque makes it clear that they're relatively liberal and publicly condemns extremism, I'd fully support it as a step towards harmony.

The irony of this is that the Americans who are the most likely to be offended by the mosque don't have a problem with extremism, as long as it's a type that serves them well or suits their ire. How many "death to Islam" types really care much about how many civilian targets get bombed in US military action in the Middle East, for instance? Hell, some of them probably want that.

I'm not in any way offended by the mosque....
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2010, 06:36:36 pm »

Here's something that people need to understand. America has a specific political culture, one that is adversarial and strongly supportive of individual rights.
Such as the right to build a mosque?
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2010, 06:39:44 pm »

I am extremely offended by this Mosque. They didn't even ask if I wanted to draw smiley faces in the foundation.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2010, 06:43:01 pm »

This mosque concept is an affront to everything good in this world, and the mere thought of building it is like personally going to the grave of every civilian who died in the-

Wait, no, actually this is pants-on-head retarded.
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Re: Americans flip shit over mosque being built near Ground Zero
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2010, 06:44:19 pm »

This mosque concept is an affront to everything good in this world, and the mere thought of building it is like personally going to the grave of every civilian who died in the-

Wait, no, actually this is pants-on-head retarded.

You did it again! Or was that someone else ...

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