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[Grakelin]

http://www.ehow.com/how_2340112_extract-iron-from-sand.html

So, in my next D&D game, the players will have nothing but a magnet and a ziploc bag, but will have to provide the beach-faring civilization with iron to craft weapons!

EDIT: LOLZ WRONG FORUMZ

EDIT2: In that case, I'm on the writing team for my uni's next D&D tournament. It isn't until March, but we meet next week to start throwing around setting ideas. What do you guys think, have anything cool to share? I'm thinking of setting it in a Roman Empire-esque fantasy land, and having one of the PCs be a travelling bard with a magic violin that could change the fate of the world. I would call it Strings & Iron. Which is what I searched (making sure I wasn't subconsciously remembering it from somewhere else) when I found this.

[Pathos]

I don't understand thread.

[Grakelin]

Just click the link, all your answers will be questioned.

[Pathos]

Just click the link, all your answers will be questioned.

Is that what it's about? Sure, the Japanese have Ironsand (couldn't find any articles on Japanese ironsand that directly related to the idea) hence why they had to use those ridiculous forging methods (the thousand folds concept, etc) and why they still ended up with terribly brittle blades. (High carbon and silicon content even post-what's it called. Smelting?)

And that's why the Japanese would've gotten absolutely buggered by Western steel in the same way we got buggered by Damascus steel. I mean, Western blades SHATTERED.

[Grakelin]

I have a Damascus Steel dagger from when I visited Syria in August '01. It's pretty hardcore, no pun intended.

[beorn080]

You want your PC's to provide iron weapons, for a beach civ. What level are they, what classes.

As for other ideas, go to the Order of the Stick gaming forums. You'll find plenty of EVIL cheese to throw at them. My favorites tend to be the Kinetic Energy Weapons.

[Grakelin]

I don't think class or level matters if they have ranks in Profession (Blacksmith).

[beorn080]

It matters significantly. If you have any caster other then the bard, its trivial to provide massive quantities of pretty much anything.

In fact, with an 11th level wiz, you get

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wallOfIron.htm

Why bother with a magnet when you can make literal walls of it. Shocking grasp could be used to turn metal coils into powerful electromagnets, Floating Disc could be used to sluice away sand and leave just the iron. A druid with lvl 2 spells can use woodshape to fashion large numbers of longspears quite quickly. Or, my favorite trick, a wiz uses a casting of minor creation to create 7 cubic feet of black lotus extract suspended in the air, then uses a quickened gust of wind to spray everything in front of him with liquid death. Why are we making iron weapons again?

[Grakelin]

That's like cheating, though.

[Pathos]

It matters significantly. If you have any caster other then the bard, its trivial to provide massive quantities of pretty much anything.

In fact, with an 11th level wiz, you get

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wallOfIron.htm

Why bother with a magnet when you can make literal walls of it. Shocking grasp could be used to turn metal coils into powerful electromagnets, Floating Disc could be used to sluice away sand and leave just the iron. A druid with lvl 2 spells can use woodshape to fashion large numbers of longspears quite quickly. Or, my favorite trick, a wiz uses a casting of minor creation to create 7 cubic feet of black lotus extract suspended in the air, then uses a quickened gust of wind to spray everything in front of him with liquid death. Why are we making iron weapons again?

The ingredients for that are like, what? 75gp? And an iron wall would be worth far more.  I hate the way D&D allows you to make infinite money with little effort.

[Grakelin]

Best way to make money in 3.5 is to buy 50ft. ladders and break them into two 50ft. poles, which each sell for more than a ladder.

[beorn080]

50 GP for a casting of Wall of Iron.

Actually, better, Wall of Stone. It doesn't specify what sort of stone is created. Bauxite perhaps? or maybe hematite. Mmm, aluminum swords.

[Neonivek]

Best way to make money in 3.5 is to buy 50ft. ladders and break them into two 50ft. poles, which each sell for more than a ladder.

But wouldn't that make two damaged 50 foot poles?

I'd personally would call that trash.

[beorn080]

Best way to make money in 3.5 is to buy 50ft. ladders and break them into two 50ft. poles, which each sell for more than a ladder.

But wouldn't that make two damaged 50 foot poles?

I'd personally would call that trash.

It does, but there are SO many other ways to break the system. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER give an intelligent player access to a http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#candleofInvocation Candle of Invocation. NEVER EVER. NEVER. I'll leave it to the reader to discover exactly which part of the Candle's powers are horribly, horribly, HORRIBLY abusable.

[Neonivek]

I somehow doubt that Candle is even an official item seeing as it is underpriced.

The interesting aspect I find about the Candle is you can cast gate at anytime but it ends the 4 hour duration. Yet there is nothing written that it cannot be done, for example, 10 seconds before the duration is up.

Though I am sure you have an even more obscure way to abuse that item.