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Author Topic: Deities and... Immortality?  (Read 7938 times)

Mel_Vixen

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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2010, 06:08:07 pm »

...And one day Mr. James Cameron decides that he wouldn't mind another couple hundred million dollars. And releases Avatar. And in a month everybody roleplays Na'vi as if they were in all faerie tales their mother used to tell them when they were children...
To be fair, the entire cultural being that Mr. James Cameron and his crack team of writers (and by that I mean crack-addicted) created was ripped off of real cultures here on earth. So what he really did was allow them to get over their guilt while still being deep in their guilt and RP the POV of the "oppressed indigs"

of course what he failed to recognize is those indigs had been oppressing themselves for hundreds of years, and all that really happened was an outside force did what was common to be done to them, hence why they didn't really get upset until racism came into the picture a little later (after it was too late to unite their disease-devistated forces under one banner, which they couldn't do any better than Europe could unite today to fight off an attack by china on the Falklands area. You really think Greece would give a shit?)

James caoran wrote "Avatar" 20 years ago. He did so to have Goal for his special effects companie - because he felt the development of the CGI stuff was to slow - so he didnt aim for a good plot. He said that here at 6 Mnutes and ~30 seconds in the vid. HE wants thought to make 2 sequells to avatar.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2010, 06:11:02 pm »

...And one day Mr. James Cameron decides that he wouldn't mind another couple hundred million dollars. And releases Avatar. And in a month everybody roleplays Na'vi as if they were in all faerie tales their mother used to tell them when they were children...
To be fair, the entire cultural being that Mr. James Cameron and his crack team of writers (and by that I mean crack-addicted) created was ripped off of real cultures here on earth. So what he really did was allow them to get over their guilt while still being deep in their guilt and RP the POV of the "oppressed indigs"

of course what he failed to recognize is those indigs had been oppressing themselves for hundreds of years, and all that really happened was an outside force did what was common to be done to them, hence why they didn't really get upset until racism came into the picture a little later (after it was too late to unite their disease-devistated forces under one banner, which they couldn't do any better than Europe could unite today to fight off an attack by china on the Falklands area. You really think Greece would give a shit?)

James caoran wrote "Avatar" 20 years ago. He did so to have Goal for his special effects companie - because he felt the development of the CGI stuff was to slow - so he didnt aim for a good plot. He said that here at 6 Mnutes and ~30 seconds in the vid. HE wants thought to make 2 sequells to avatar.

Wait, he wrote it 20 years ago just like Stan Lee created The Sentry before he created the Fantastic Four?

Or is this true, and not bullshit?
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2010, 07:17:47 pm »

Well he said it himself so i would bet its true.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2010, 08:59:02 pm »

Then again we can say just about anything we want about ourselves and so long as it's not on any sort of permanent record nobody can definitively say it's a lie.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2010, 02:00:38 am »

Uh... And now James Cameron turns out to be quite a good and creative guy. My world is ceasing to be black and white, especially since EA, apparently, did a good job with the promotion of Dante's Inferno, and with the game itself... This is somewhat unsettling.
Wait.
I presume this thread has evolved into the realm of free discussion?
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2010, 10:21:04 am »

Uh... And now James Cameron turns out to be quite a good and creative guy.
(Citation needed)
My world is ceasing to be black and white, especially since EA, apparently, did a good job with the promotion of Dante's Inferno, and with the game itself... This is somewhat unsettling.
Wait.
I presume this thread has evolved into the realm of free discussion?
I reserve my Judgement for EA when they realize what Blizzard gave lip service to(although also failed to realize)
When I see Dante's Inferno on the PC without EA-Mandated DRM, we'll talk about EA being not evil... Actually, no we won't, because they are full of fail when it comes to porting stuff, so even without DRM it'd still suck.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2010, 03:52:16 pm »

Well he said it himself so i would bet its true.

Really?

Well, did you know that I invented paper? It's true. I just said it myself, so it must be.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2010, 03:29:22 am »

Well, I fail to see the point of discussion here. And what if he wrote it 20 years ago? Does it offend your ego? And anyway, in that video he says that even if he had written it 20 years ago, he got a lot of influences to develop and change it from his expeditions which happened after the Titanic, which isn't 20 years ago.

As for him being good, that was primarily based on a comment under the video that he had donated for the hole in the bottom of the sea, but then, after watching the video, I saw that he has a vision, you can't really blame a person for being fascinated with visual arts and working in that direction; also he says that he finds the creativity of our nature much greater than that of humankind, and that can be related to Na'vi being derivative.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2010, 08:14:15 am »

Well, I fail to see the point of discussion here. And what if he wrote it 20 years ago? Does it offend your ego? And anyway, in that video he says that even if he had written it 20 years ago, he got a lot of influences to develop and change it from his expeditions which happened after the Titanic, which isn't 20 years ago.

The idea that someone saying something about himself must be true simply because he said it himself is ridiculous. That's what offends me.

I have no truck with James Cameron, especially since I liked most of his movies (Titanic, for example, was pretty good). It's just this particular thing

Well he said it himself so i would bet its true.

that I had to respond to, because that kind of belief opens up a vulnerability to all sorts of shenanigans.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #69 on: June 08, 2010, 05:56:55 am »

Each world you generate is essentially another universe, broseph. Does it happen the same way, everywhere? So, 2d to 3d follows a linear timeline? And then on to 40d, and on to 2010? Oh, gee, Urist, see, one day, everything was three-dimensional! Whaddaya-fucking-know!

-When DF made the jump from 2D to 3D-
Urist Unollolum, Woodcutter cancels Chop Tree: Saw how big the sky is today.
Urist Unollolum, Woodcutter cancels Chop Tree: Dangerous Terrain. x999999...
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #70 on: June 08, 2010, 09:21:49 am »

Each world you generate is essentially another universe, broseph. Does it happen the same way, everywhere? So, 2d to 3d follows a linear timeline? And then on to 40d, and on to 2010? Oh, gee, Urist, see, one day, everything was three-dimensional! Whaddaya-fucking-know!

-When DF made the jump from 2D to 3D-
Urist Unollolum, Woodcutter cancels Chop Tree: Saw how big the sky is today.
Urist Unollolum, Woodcutter cancels Chop Tree: Dangerous Terrain. x999999...
Cue the following:
- about a hundred clown cars opened all at once
- magma flood (which floods into the chasm)
- cave-in of the entire mountain
- river flood (possibly stopping the magma flood)
And so on.
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Re: Deities and... Immortality?
« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2010, 03:41:25 pm »

I'm surprised no one has pointed out the obvious yet:  most likely goblins in DF are immortal because in the Tolkien fantasy world goblins were created from Elves.  (Selective breeding?  Genetic engineering?  I don't know.)  Anyhow since Elves are immortal, it's assumed so are goblins.  Although I can't remember whether Tolkien actually said whether goblins actually are ageless.  Presumable they lead such violent lives that they die in battle before old age becomes an issue.

I picture goblins not as troll like at all, but like stupider, fatter dark elves.

No, no, no -- Trolls were created from elves. Well, they e/devolved from elves. Goblins merely came from Undermine, a mini-continent in the South Seas.

At least... in Warcraft. Whose lore I hold above Tolkien's to the death.

That... might be the saddest thing I've ever read.
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