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Author Topic: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Night 2: Stopped Before He Could Kilikan! Or Start.  (Read 27341 times)

Criptfeind

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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2010, 07:41:48 pm »

Criptfeind, why is your name spelled that way?

I have Dysgraphia and I was eight when I made the name for my second online account.

Criptfeind - Do you think Ottofar's being out of town during RVS will hurt the game?  Or will it help to have some fresh perspective in case something like Bandage's slip sends us off on a newbhunt, rather than a scumhuntz?

Eh the more I play the more I realize that RVT is needed but still bull crap and I dislike it, so probably a good thing that he is gone. Unless he is scum of course.
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Lonewolf I

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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2010, 09:07:33 pm »

Unvote

Unless he is scum of course.

Naturally. 

I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways
Who do you believe would be the most dangerous to be against character?

And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC.  Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town.  Unless that's what they want us to think.

Zako, Penngo, neither of you have spoken since Bandagegate.  You're not trying to lay low while we burn him at the stake, are you?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2010, 09:20:11 pm »

EBWOP: I forgot to remove the Unvote from my last post.  I changed my mind halfway through writing it.  Pengo009 still bears my vote.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2010, 09:23:51 pm »

EABWOP: Damn you, memory!  Why are you getting Penngo and Zako mixed up?

Anyway, I want to hear from both of you. Doesn't matter which one I'm using as a placeholder in the meantime.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2010, 10:54:54 pm »

I have Dysgraphia and I was eight when I made the name for my second online account.

Fair enough.
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And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC. Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town. Unless that's what they want us to think.

Isn't there a saying or something for this?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2010, 10:55:35 pm »

Oooh, glow, whoops.

Just to be clear, Unvote
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2010, 11:09:03 pm »

Isn't there a saying or something for this?

Indeedy do, WIFOM, Wine In Front Of Me. IE trying to confuse people.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2010, 02:25:41 am »

Gind mames
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2010, 08:58:00 am »

Sorry, just been preoccupied.

Unvote.

Bandages made a large slip up early. He looks like scum to me, but since everyone knows he's scum I will focus on someone else, namely...

Lonewolf I, WIFOM is anti-town, stop trying to confuse us, that's what scum want, and since you are attempting it, you look scummy. Why are you doing this if your town?
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2010, 09:48:30 am »

Let's see what happened while I was gone for a while.

Gind mames

What? Is there a meaning to this?

I gotta agree Bandages is suspicious.... anyways

What do we have here? Buddying Kilakan? Better watch it. Buddying is scummy. You went up a little bit.
 
And the first second vote rears its ugly head.  I'm not quite ready to crucify Bandages for that. Not with Org as scum IC.  Under his guidance I would be surprised to see any major scumslips out of the newb scum, and more expectant of them out of newb town.  Unless that's what they want us to think.

And underlined we have WIFOM. Trying to confuse the town maybe? You also went up a little bit.
 
Also, Criptfeind, why haven't you contributed anything? You answered questions, but have yet to participate yourself. Why?
 
In summary, Kilakan appears to be buddying, so I am more suspicious of him. Also more suspicious of Lonewolf I for WIFOM. Also, Cript has not participated much. I've played a game where he was scum before, and he was very active there, so I don't find this really scummy of him. It has still grabbed my attention.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2010, 11:05:52 am »

Let me tell you it is a lot harder to play as town because as scum you get to lie cheat and steal, I am still working on the entire "playing as town" game.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2010, 12:37:03 pm »

Let me tell you it is a lot harder to play as town because as scum you get to lie cheat and steal, I am still working on the entire "playing as town" game.

True. I think that scum can be easier since you know who is your ally and enemy. But being scum can put more pressure on you, and I'm not always great with pressure.

But, if you don't contribute by the end of Day 1, I will be very suspicious.
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A catgirl, whom oft it would please
To dine on a pizza, with cheese,
Thought it was quite fine
To be partly feline,
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2010, 03:04:38 pm »

Gind mames

What? Is there a meaning to this?

Gind mames = Mind Games

Lonewolf I, WIFOM is anti-town, stop trying to confuse us, that's what scum want, and since you are attempting it, you look scummy. Why are you doing this if your town?

As far as WIFOM goes, now I understand that term, though I don't believe the assessment is valid.  WIFOM means forcing your opponent into such circular reasoning, using the pressure of the situation to obtain a single, irrevocable decision that is usually either a blind guess or a Third Option born of hasty, hopefully fallacious reasoning.

Certainly my analysis of the situation is the product of some circular reasoning, but there is no decision being made.  Any confusion my statement creates is the result of a perceived False Dilemma.  Scum could easily adopt a different strategy, and negate my reasoning completely.  Indeed, they probably have.

The purpose behind my particular wording was threefold:
  • Point out one possible scenario in which Bandages is not scum, and one in which he is.  I was using both scenarios as support for my caution that we not rush into lynching him blindly.
  • Remind everyone that there is an elite IC over in scumchat.  Whatever plan scum settle on will have likely passed his scrutiny.
  • Take potshots at the scum planning process, attempting to sow disorder and confusion, however brief, into scumchat.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2010, 03:11:27 pm »

Also, Bandages.  Posting nonsense is anti-town as well.  It's an indicator of activelurking.  Even though you're currently under the microscope, you should still be doing scumhunting of your own.  Useless town deserve to be lynched almost as much as scum.
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Re: Beginner's Mafia 11 - Day 1: Taskforce Nine
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2010, 03:16:19 pm »

Well I am of the belief that it is useless to lynch anyone day one, just because we have NO information to go off of.

At least day 2, we can get cop information as well as see if there are any people that are doubling up on a proffesion.
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