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Author Topic: [0.34.11v01] Phoebus' Graphic Set (0.34.11's one year anniversary update)  (Read 984289 times)

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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1965 on: August 27, 2012, 05:19:58 am »

I just got the newest version of this, and there isn't any music, umm anyone know whats up with that?
Also, can someone make a prepackaged Mac version?
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1966 on: September 28, 2012, 06:40:36 pm »

Call me a pessimist (which I aint) but wont the new trees pose a little problem for tilesets like this ? Or any tileset really... I just saw the screens toady posted, and it seems to use a circle of walls for the treetop.

Phoebus, did you spend any thought on that ?
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1967 on: September 29, 2012, 11:18:30 am »

Call me a pessimist (which I aint) but wont the new trees pose a little problem for tilesets like this ? Or any tileset really... I just saw the screens toady posted, and it seems to use a circle of walls for the treetop.
As far as I understood Toady, the tiles for the new trees can all be changed. Furthermore, there will be a few more tiles that can be used for something else now (there won't be any single tile trees anymore). IIRC not all tiles currently used for trees are used in the world map, so you would have a some free tiles for things like fruits and leaves. Additionally I think even using the current walls in the graphic sets in brown would look good as trunks. They're already used for large rivers on the world map. With some adjustments to make them look ambiguous (trees and walls), we should be fine.
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1968 on: October 21, 2012, 05:25:54 pm »

In my fort any broken bolts appear as mud piles, using the Lazy Newb version.

Is that something I can fix by editing text files?
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1969 on: October 26, 2012, 10:09:19 pm »

Hi I switched from Windows to Ubuntu recently and I've noticed that the colours/icons are different. Is this actually the case or have I just messed up the installation? or does the LNP change the original files?

Schist is just a monochrome brown. Gypsum/Sandstone type rocks are sort of hatched

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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1970 on: October 27, 2012, 09:32:15 am »

I just got the newest version of this, and there isn't any music, umm anyone know whats up with that?
Also, can someone make a prepackaged Mac version?
The music is disabled by default in the config that comes with the graphic set.

You can reactivate the music by editing the text file "data/init/init.txt" and changing the [SOUND:NO] line to [SOUND:YES]

In my fort any broken bolts appear as mud piles, using the Lazy Newb version.

Is that something I can fix by editing text files?
That's not a bug, those tiles are used for more than just broken bolts/arrows, so I gave them a less specific appearance.
The tile association is also hardcoded, so I couldn't do anything crafty.

Hi I switched from Windows to Ubuntu recently and I've noticed that the colours/icons are different. Is this actually the case or have I just messed up the installation? or does the LNP change the original files?

Schist is just a monochrome brown. Gypsum/Sandstone type rocks are sort of hatched

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Any feedback would be appreciated.
You're using the tileset (the image), but not the raws (the object to tileset association.)
You just need to copy the content of the graphic pack's raw directory over your savegame's raw directory.

Call me a pessimist (which I aint) but wont the new trees pose a little problem for tilesets like this ? Or any tileset really... I just saw the screens toady posted, and it seems to use a circle of walls for the treetop.
As far as I understood Toady, the tiles for the new trees can all be changed. Furthermore, there will be a few more tiles that can be used for something else now (there won't be any single tile trees anymore). IIRC not all tiles currently used for trees are used in the world map, so you would have a some free tiles for things like fruits and leaves. Additionally I think even using the current walls in the graphic sets in brown would look good as trunks. They're already used for large rivers on the world map. With some adjustments to make them look ambiguous (trees and walls), we should be fine.
At worst I'll just create a single 'foliage' tile and will use that tile for all treetop tiles.
The tileset is starting to be really cramped. :/
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« Reply #1971 on: October 27, 2012, 01:40:44 pm »

You're using the tileset (the image), but not the raws (the object to tileset association.)
You just need to copy the content of the graphic pack's raw directory over your savegame's raw directory.

Thanks a lot!
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1972 on: November 26, 2012, 10:49:45 pm »

Hey, I love your Graphic set, but, I've used it for awhile and I want to switch back to the original "graphics". I can't seem to find anything relating to this (I'm sure this has come up before, but the 132 pages are ... daunting) and I've tried fiddling a bit with init.txt, but to no avail and I'm afriad of messing with much more to avoid corrupting my save files or something, I'm not very knowledgeable in this regard.
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1973 on: November 27, 2012, 09:01:43 am »

Hey, I love your Graphic set, but, I've used it for awhile and I want to switch back to the original "graphics". I can't seem to find anything relating to this (I'm sure this has come up before, but the 132 pages are ... daunting) and I've tried fiddling a bit with init.txt, but to no avail and I'm afriad of messing with much more to avoid corrupting my save files or something, I'm not very knowledgeable in this regard.
Phoebus is a graphic set, meaning there are creature graphics, and a tileset that requires raw changes (tells the game which tile to use for what).
So, there's 3 things you have to do here:
Removing the creature graphics
telling the game to use another tileset (you want the default one, I presume)
changing the raws back to the default

Now, you could do all this manually, but it would be easier and faster to just transfer your save to a new DF install and fix the raws:
Download vanilla version of DF
extract it into new folder (DON'T overwrite your old folder, that only leads to problems)
copy your old save from data/save/ to the new folder into data/save/
delete the folder "raw" within the newly copied save folder (data/save/region 1/2/3/raw)
copy the default raws (in the DF root directory) into your save folder
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1974 on: November 27, 2012, 02:04:06 pm »

Phoebus is a graphic set, meaning there are creature graphics, and a tileset that requires raw changes (tells the game which tile to use for what).
So, there's 3 things you have to do here:
Removing the creature graphics
telling the game to use another tileset (you want the default one, I presume)
changing the raws back to the default

Now, you could do all this manually, but it would be easier and faster to just transfer your save to a new DF install and fix the raws:
Download vanilla version of DF
extract it into new folder (DON'T overwrite your old folder, that only leads to problems)
copy your old save from data/save/ to the new folder into data/save/
delete the folder "raw" within the newly copied save folder (data/save/region 1/2/3/raw)
copy the default raws (in the DF root directory) into your save folder
Ah, thank you very much, that worked.
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1975 on: December 28, 2012, 09:31:08 am »

hello Phoebus!

while building new fort, i was thinking - why we have big X symbol for up/down stair case and not some graphic representation of spiral staircase? if you could implement graphic icon, guess it would be much nicer looking.
something like full circle spiral stairs with dark hole in center without any handles or railways. (handles are for sissies not dwarfs)



or different version - graphic representation of one level staircase/



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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1976 on: December 28, 2012, 01:12:39 pm »

I suspect this is impractical as the up/down icon is used for bins and the selection icon.

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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1977 on: December 28, 2012, 04:08:58 pm »

I suspect this is impractical as the up/down icon is used for bins and the selection icon.
It is used for even more than that.
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floodgate
shop post
building footprint
Depot Access Display
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up/down stairs
Tile in Ashery
keyboard cursor
Nausea / Winded / Stunned / Unconscious / Migrant indicator
This stuff is hardcoded and only Toady can change which tile is used to display them.
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1978 on: January 06, 2013, 09:58:50 pm »

I'm always hoping the next update gives Toady the incentive to move more stuff to its own graphics set, like creatures have been, so the modders can come up with their own versions.  Thats the only way to really fix things like the problems if you make neat looking stairs, or good hills for the world map, etc.  In the meantime, you can still put in your good stairs, as long as you accept it will show up in other places as well. ;)
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Re: [0.34.11v00] Phoebus' Graphic Set (Updated to DF 0.34.11)
« Reply #1979 on: January 07, 2013, 08:04:49 am »

I'm always hoping the next update gives Toady the incentive to move more stuff to its own graphics set, like creatures have been, so the modders can come up with their own versions.  Thats the only way to really fix things like the problems if you make neat looking stairs, or good hills for the world map, etc.  In the meantime, you can still put in your good stairs, as long as you accept it will show up in other places as well. ;)

He is aware of the problem, it seems. Indicated by the fact that every newly added thing (minecarts, tree tiles in the next version for two recent examples) has been assignable in the raws for some time now. Rewriting old code related to this on the other hand is a whole different (lower) priority, obviously. And, while I would love to finally have "full graphic support" (see Mayday's eternal suggestion), looking at the features that are currently being implemented, I can't help but agree with Toady's priorities.
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