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[Phoebus]

*Updated* 0.31.25v07
New tileset: Diagonal Walls + Meld
Added a new tile for Spore Trees & Fungiwood.
Added a new tile for outdoor root/bulb plants.
Improved the texture and adjusted the contrast of walls.
Adjusted the sand wall tile.
Improved the 'Phoebus' default embark setup. Now with 50% more FUN!

[Phoebus]

New plant tile for plants with roots & bulbs:
Red = Red/Hide Root
Brown = Bloated Tuber
Grey = Muck Root
Teal = Kobold Bulb (not visible on the screenshot)

They look amazing but I can't see the color difference on a casual glance.
Maybe if you use more colored pixels.

Thanks.
I did start drawing the tile using more pixels, but it looked too weird, like if the plant was already uprooted.
None of my design were looking good (or were particularly easy to identify for that matter), then I thought of this design and at least it didn't look weird, so I stuck with it.

[Shandra]

Wow - so much progress recently! 2 minor things I would like to ask though:

1st

Spoiler: old old walls vs. old walls in new set (click to show/hide)

Top: smoothed / Bottom: engraved stone
Left: New Set  / Right: Old Set

Somehow i miss something alike to the old engravings, as I otherwise find it hard to distinguish between engraved and just smoothed walls (except for the floor tiles/parts of the tile)

2nd
The floodgates/wall grates tile - is there any particular reason why it is doorshaped? I am currently always mirroring its upper few pixels and place it over the bottom ones to get a somewhat circular grate.


Otherwise - as said, great improvements so far!

[Azahiel]

Wow - so much progress recently! 2 minor things I would like to ask though:

1st

Spoiler: old old walls vs. old walls in new set (click to show/hide)

Top: smoothed / Bottom: engraved stone
Left: New Set  / Right: Old Set

Somehow i miss something alike to the old engravings, as I otherwise find it hard to distinguish between engraved and just smoothed walls (except for the floor tiles/parts of the tile)

2nd
The floodgates/wall grates tile - is there any particular reason why it is doorshaped? I am currently always mirroring its upper few pixels and place it over the bottom ones to get a somewhat circular grate.

I have to agree to the first issue, the walls should be more distinguishable. Though I love the old walls over the new ones
And the second issue - my floodgates are that "X" tile, so they're ok I think. Although, I had a problem before that they were doorshaped. Fixed now in the new releases of the tileset.

Now my issues

There's something I wanted to ask before.

Spoiler: Fungiwood still trees and wooden doors (click to show/hide)

Left: Fungiwood is still trees... in the new "diagonal_Meld" set
Right: Wooden doors use the wall tile. It's like that for some time now. Is that supposed to be like that?

[Phoebus]

Wow - so much progress recently! 2 minor things I would like to ask though:

1st

Spoiler: old old walls vs. old walls in new set (click to show/hide)

Top: smoothed / Bottom: engraved stone
Left: New Set  / Right: Old Set

Somehow i miss something alike to the old engravings, as I otherwise find it hard to distinguish between engraved and just smoothed walls (except for the floor tiles/parts of the tile)

2nd
The floodgates/wall grates tile - is there any particular reason why it is doorshaped? I am currently always mirroring its upper few pixels and place it over the bottom ones to get a somewhat circular grate.


Otherwise - as said, great improvements so far!

Thanks.
I'll look into both problems. Can't promise anything about the wall grate tile, it's meant to represent a portcullis, which usually have stone arched tops as they kinda help keeping the bad guys from breaking the gate. If I change it I think I'll try to make it round.

Wow - so much progress recently! 2 minor things I would like to ask though:

1st

Spoiler: old old walls vs. old walls in new set (click to show/hide)

Top: smoothed / Bottom: engraved stone
Left: New Set  / Right: Old Set

Somehow i miss something alike to the old engravings, as I otherwise find it hard to distinguish between engraved and just smoothed walls (except for the floor tiles/parts of the tile)

2nd
The floodgates/wall grates tile - is there any particular reason why it is doorshaped? I am currently always mirroring its upper few pixels and place it over the bottom ones to get a somewhat circular grate.

I have to agree to the first issue, the walls should be more distinguishable. Though I love the old walls over the new ones
And the second issue - my floodgates are that "X" tile, so they're ok I think. Although, I had a problem before that they were doorshaped. Fixed now in the new releases of the tileset.

Now my issues

There's something I wanted to ask before.

Spoiler: Fungiwood still trees and wooden doors (click to show/hide)

Left: Fungiwood is still trees... in the new "diagonal_Meld" set
Right: Wooden doors use the wall tile. It's like that for some time now. Is that supposed to be like that?

Edit: Are you sure you updated your raws? The updated tile # for Fungiwood is already in v07.

And wooden doors are hardcoded to use the vertical (N-S) wall tile. It'll be improved (if you can call it that) when I add back external dotted engravings to the old diagonal walls.

[Azahiel]

Edit: Are you sure you updated your raws? The updated tile # for Fungiwood is already in v07.

And wooden doors are hardcoded to use the vertical (N-S) wall tile. It'll be improved (if you can call it that) when I add back external dotted engravings to the old diagonal walls.

Yeah, I think I forgot about that...fixed now. Thanks

[Shandra]

Thanks.
I'll look into both problems. Can't promise anything about the wall grate tile, it's meant to represent a portcullis, which usually have stone arched tops as they kinda help keeping the bad guys from breaking the gate. If I change it I think I'll try to make it round.

Thanks ahead for the walls - and the grate ain't really a problem - I have a few tiles that I am always replacing; I kept the selection mask for them in a file - so thats each time just a few clicks to replace them with my choice.

[Phoebus]

Test tileset with both styles of engravings.
The new 'snakey' floors engravings are now slightly brighter in this version.

[LucasUP]

Darnit Phoebus, TOO MANY UPDATES, the LNP can't keep up with you (hehe)

By the way, would you mind if I included your embark whenever I release the next LNP?

[Phoebus]

Darnit Phoebus, TOO MANY UPDATES, the LNP can't keep up with you (hehe)

By the way, would you mind if I included your embark whenever I release the next LNP?

You are welcome to include it in the LNP.

[Shandra]

'nother question as I have my first .25 game running now....
The Tile set for hives is functional until they are not installed - installed hives still look yellow and like timbers. So, why the table tile? Is there a way to (I haven't found one so far COLOR and BASIC_COLOR doesn't effect the tool colour... but maybe there is a way to cancel the allready present tag from the material?) to override the color attribute in the items_tool definition of the hive? I mean, if they are yellow (bees?) after all once placed, I think a yellow barrel tile would be more appropriate for it as a tool (or is there, besides my own modded giant bamboo tree, any wood (yes, I wanted those beds!) that uses yellow?)

[Phoebus]

'nother question as I have my first .25 game running now....
The Tile set for hives is functional until they are not installed - installed hives still look yellow and like timbers. So, why the table tile? Is there a way to (I haven't found one so far COLOR and BASIC_COLOR doesn't effect the tool colour... but maybe there is a way to cancel the allready present tag from the material?) to override the color attribute in the items_tool definition of the hive? I mean, if they are yellow (bees?) after all once placed, I think a yellow barrel tile would be more appropriate for it as a tool (or is there, besides my own modded giant bamboo tree, any wood (yes, I wanted those beds!) that uses yellow?)

*groans*
It seems I can change the tool/storage tile for nest boxes and hives, but not their constructed tiles.
I tried to use the table tile as the hive tile because I think it looks like a commercial hive; the base & legs looks like a box, the tabletop looks like a removable lid, and the gap between the table's legs looks like a bee entrance.
But I guess that's all for naught now, the hive tool tile association does not carry to it's built form, so I'll have to switch back to the log tile for hive 'tools' for consistency's sake.
Now I just have to fix the log tile. 

[krenshala]

Using v7 I noticed that instead of the arrow for hunger/thirst/unhappy it appears to be using bulb plant tile.  I'm guessing thats hard coded to use that particular (down arrow) tile?

[Khift]

A couple minor nitpicks, mostly about the new mineral designation system:

- Why does bauxite have the 'special stone' tile? As far as I know there's basically nothing special about bauxite any more. It used to be one of the few magma safe stones, but now magma safe stones are a dime a dozen. Barring a mod that lets you smelt bauxite into aluminum I don't see any reason to denote bauxite as special.

- Why does garnierite have the 'valuable metal' tile? Garnierite smelts into nickel, a 2 value metal, and is used in one completely useless alloy (nickel silver) that has no value because you can make brass with the same ingredients minus nickel and actually get a value boost out of it. Basically, garnierite is the definition of a junk metal, best used for practice and bins. Sphalerite and even galena I can see purpose to giving the valuable metal tile, but not garnierite. (Although if it were up to me I'd bump sphalerite and galena down to normal metal.)

- Can we get iron ores into the 'valuable metal' tile? Hematite doesn't really need it seeing as it is the only red ore tile, but magnetite in particular is hard to differentiate from tetrahedrite. Iron ore is generally considered the most valuable metal one can find due to it's versatile usage (and it's high value -- iron has a value of 10, equal to silver and steel a value of 30, equal to gold) and while it doesn't necessarily need it's own tile it'd be nice for it to use the valuable metal tile.

Not complaining, don't get me wrong, just some suggestions / thoughts on the new mineral setups.

[veok]

I believe bauxite is a "special stone" because it is the only stone that can contain rubies and sapphires. On the otherhand, post mineral scarcity, this doesn't seem to be true in all cases.