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[Deon]

Because DF uses DirectX to draw all symbols. We have flat surfaces with textures for levels, so it may be dependant on software.

I don't see a single shrub on your picture. WHERE IS A '"" SHRUB?

[rephikul]

Because DF uses DirectX to draw all symbols. We have flat surfaces with textures for levels, so it may be dependant on software.

I don't see a single shrub on your picture. WHERE IS A '"" SHRUB?

my coals use '"', should make no difference. This was screenie from an older version copied from my thread and I cant bother to find the raw.

[Deon]

my coals use '"', should make no difference.

Now please read my reply #538 and show me where did I say anything about stone tiles? I was referring to bush graphics, which were a problem here. Seriously, do you want just to chat? I thought you had a fix for bush graphics .

should make no difference

I didn't expect such an answer from a fellow modder :/.
Do you realize that [TILE:*] and [PICKED_TILE:*] are totally different tokens?

[rephikul]

should make no difference

I didn't expect such an answer from a fellow modder :/.
Do you realize that [TILE:*] and [PICKED_TILE:*] are totally different tokens?

Why should I expect any difference? Df's graphics is extremely primitive and all tiles would supposedly go through the same render routines and their data imported in the same manner. TILE and PICKED_TILE shouldnt make any differences as far as the display engine is concerned. Expecting them to act differently is like buying a six pack and expect them not tasting the same. I however have just tried and confirmed this bug.

[Deon]

Heh, because you have to try before you suggest, that's how DF works. It does not have ANYTHING which has an "unified" interface/base. Basically every type of stuff has its own raw tokens, there's almost no standard. I guess Toady just doesn't plan to make it better because he has other stuff to do. Basically it's not a bug, it's just PICKED_TILE have a different syntax from TILE.

TILE and PICKED_TILE shouldnt make any differences as far as the display engine is concerned.

If you ask me, there should be only TILE, without PICKED_TILE at all, but every stuff has its own raws, it's Toady's approach.

[rephikul]

TILE and PICKED_TILE shouldnt make any differences as far as the display engine is concerned.

If you ask me, there should be only TILE, without PICKED_TILE at all, but every stuff has its own raws, it's Toady's approach.

That's not true at all. TILE is used to display the shrub and PICK_TILE is used to display the harvested item. It's like how you should be able to see NAME when you look at a shrub and BASIC_MAT.NAME when you look at its harvested items. There's a bug here however and you see BASIC_MAT.NAME in both cases.

Should mention rocks also have similar design.

[mareck]

Any chance that Phoebus will do a complete set for the goblins?

[Deon]

TILE and PICKED_TILE shouldnt make any differences as far as the display engine is concerned.

If you ask me, there should be only TILE, without PICKED_TILE at all, but every stuff has its own raws, it's Toady's approach.

That's not true at all. TILE is used to display the shrub and PICK_TILE is used to display the harvested item. It's like how you should be able to see NAME when you look at a shrub and BASIC_MAT.NAME when you look at its harvested items. There's a bug here however and you see BASIC_MAT.NAME in both cases.

Should mention rocks also have similar design.

I confused myself here, sorry. I meant "SHRUB_TILE" could be "TILE". Well, yeah. There's too many unsorted stuff.

Any chance that Phoebus will do a complete set for the goblins?

I am pretty sure there is a full set of goblins in this mod (Sphr's goblins).

[myrkul]

Solution: '"' is not a valid tile specification for growing/dead plants. check the raws. all the other plants are numbers. change it to:

Code: [Select]

[SHRUB_TILE:34]

[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:34]


and problem solved (You will, of course need to re-gen or run a save updater). For some reason, Picked tile specifications are characters, and shrub tile specifications are numbers.

Edit: Deon, you'll have to fix this in genesis again.
Re-edit: After a little further play/raw investigation, It seems the Picked tile specs are also numbers, in plant_standard. I'm going through and fixing them. Deon, would you like the repaired raws, once I'm done?

[Phoebus]

Any chance that Phoebus will do a complete set for the goblins?

Yes, if Sphr completes his goblin tileset.

Solution: '"' is not a valid tile specification for growing/dead plants. check the raws. all the other plants are numbers. change it to:

Code: [Select]

[SHRUB_TILE:34]

[DEAD_SHRUB_TILE:34]


and problem solved (You will, of course need to re-gen or run a save updater). For some reason, Picked tile specifications are characters, and shrub tile specifications are numbers.

Edit: Deon, you'll have to fix this in genesis again.
Re-edit: After a little further play/raw investigation, It seems the Picked tile specs are also numbers, in plant_standard. I'm going through and fixing them. Deon, would you like the repaired raws, once I'm done?

Ok, ok, I get it, numbers only.
Sheesh!

[mareck]

I have ZERO praphics skills and i need a complete tileset for a propper race mod.

At least the Phoebus collection is awesome to play in while i wait for a complete gobbo set.

[Deon]

Here it is. No nobles yet since gobbos have no nobles. If you want specific noble tiles, tell me.

P.S. Also no doctors/prisoners, I forgot about them. I will finish it soon .

[Phoebus]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Here it is. No nobles yet since gobbos have no nobles. If you want specific noble tiles, tell me.

P.S. Also no doctors/prisoners, I forgot about them. I will finish it soon .

All praise Deon!

Unless told otherwise, I will assume that tileset was created by you.
Thanks.

[Deon]

Nah, the ORIGINAL peasant/military gobbos are by Sphr. I used his peasant as a base and made professions. So it's a combined work .

[myrkul]

Ok, ok, I get it, numbers only.
Sheesh!

no prob. took me 10  minutes to fix.  Gotta love that replace all function.