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[Virex]

Also, pinned-down opponents should be realy easy to dispatch with a proper weapon (provided the second attacker doesn't hit the wretler)

[Rowanas]

I disagree about the wrestling. I reckon our dwarves would be breaking bones and stuff like that. More curb stomping, less pansy-ing around and holding hands (or arms or legs).

[Ralith]

Wrestling should be deadly versus unarmored opponents and normal beasts, but should not be able to take on armored opponents 1v1 without first removing the armor or getting a buddy to smack him. Just sayin'

[numerobis]

Current DF implements spinal cord damage; I've had dwarves suffocate after breaking their necks (or having their necks broken for them).  Sometimes they survive despite a broken neck, but it does appear to be a pretty dangerous injury.  So... what's missing?

[Mel_Vixen]

Wrestling should be deadly versus unarmored opponents and normal beasts, but should not be able to take on armored opponents 1v1 without first removing the armor or getting a buddy to smack him. Just sayin'

Many martial arts deal with that stuff. Normaly by using joint-locks and levers.

[CppThis]

My understanding of the physics involved is that breaks are supposed to be a lot more damaging than they currently are, and a broken neck would probably disable the head (i.e. dead goblin storage) but due to some bugs it's not working as intended.

[Josephus]

Also, pinned-down opponents should be realy easy to dispatch with a proper weapon (provided the second attacker doesn't hit the wretler)

Coup de grace?

Should be easier once Toady does the combat arc. Which is really all I'm waiting for.

[Ralith]

Heph- You don't really think the dwarves are using some sort of fancy martial arts, do you? Maybe one of the REALLY blunt ones, but not anything like judo or akido- too sissy and elven and such.

[truckman1]

Heph- You don't really think the dwarves are using some sort of fancy martial arts, do you? Maybe one of the REALLY blunt ones, but not anything like judo or akido- too sissy and elven and such.

So something like  Krav-maga? Since it's not about looking fancy and explicitly about how to inflict as much pain and damage on your opponent as possible in an efficient manner.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

It would be nice if wrestling was more dangerous again, like it was in 40D.

I'm fine with no more dwarven jedi kung-fu masters, but wrestling should first attempt to pin an opponent. Once they're pinned go for the throat. No air = dead.

Obviously wrestlers will run into problems with undead creatures and constructs but thats fine.

You should be able to actually throw creatures with super(Human, Dwarven, etc.) strength and a certain level in wrestling.