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[Toady Two]

I don't really see it that way. The Legion are invaders and they are doing all those terrible things to instill fear, not without success. It does get a little when every time you pass by some dudes in red armor they talk about crucifying you but thats nothing compared to the moronic Tenpenny in FO3. Obsidian at least has some shades of gray in their character design while in Betheseda it's either the entire faction eats babies or is the mix of Boyscout/Knight Templar that the caricature of the BoS was in FO3.

I haven't gotten that far into the game yet but I'm helping the NCR at Forlorn Hope right now. When I first saw the Legion I thought they would be an antagonist faction to the NCR with quest for a neutral/bad karma character. I was surprised to read on some forum that there aren't as many quest, nor companion NPCs for the Legion and that there is really no reason not to stick with the NCR. It's a bummer since I was hoping for replaying some other time as a scumbag.

[umiman]

You can side with the legion. Quite a lot of opportunities actually.

edit: And you can kinda modify one of your companions to become a legion member.

[Rakonas]

Who needs companions when you're with the Legion? When I did a legion runthrough I put a stick of dynamite in that one centurion's pocket and stole his shit, then obliterated entire camps of NCR, keeping my health up by engaging in field cannibalism in front of ncr soldiers.

[umiman]

Who needs companions when you're with the Legion? When I did a legion runthrough I put a stick of dynamite in that one centurion's pocket and stole his shit, then obliterated entire camps of NCR, keeping my health up by engaging in field cannibalism in front of ncr soldiers.

Hahaha, that's pretty awesome.

[jnecros]

I agree, the legion is really a one-trick pony, and pretty boring in general. Caesar is a complete tool, right out of a bad godfather rip-off. The faction offers nothing to the wastes, so it is not a good antagonist to the NCR. I love being evil, but seriously, the legion are not a realistic faction, they are at best a minor power because they cant not win the hearts and minds. They even fail at the basics of what made Rome strong, economic unity and devlopement of public works at the cost of selective human liberty. For example, they should also want to control the dam, not destroy it for no good reason. Hence, I chose not to be anyone's bitch, and that ending was not very impressive btw.

[Asehujiko]

I've just did the quest in the weather station and heard ceasars monologue about why he's doing everything he does and I'm wondering if there's any option to tell him how incredibly wrong he is about everything he says like the master from FO1 near the end? He kind of misunderstood everything about his ancient namesake except the name. Unless that's just the developers being horrible at history?

Edit: Talking to the guy outside the weather station reveals that they DO set puppies on fire. Talk about stereotypes.

[Grakelin]

He misunderstood the name, too.

[umiman]

It's intentional. They explain (actually he explains) that he only read a little glimpse of what roman civilization was actually like and it is some several thousand years into the future. Of course he has no clue what they were really like. Maybe he read some roman legion fanfiction. Not to mention only one person actually knows what happened with the master and he's already dead. Everyone else just guesses.

[Blargityblarg]

I'd expect it to be intentional, a la that museum in Rivet City in FO3.

[Sergius]

One thing I don't understand about the Legion, is that apparently once you decide to crucify some people for the lulz and wear leather skirts, magically you learn some sort of "educated Roman" accent. I understand learning a few Latin mottos, but...

Anyway, I don't know if this is old news but there is already a New Vegas Real Time Settler mod out there:

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36922

It even takes into account Hardcore mode (lets you build houses, has scrap requirements or whatever), or easy-boring mode where you don't.

EDIT: Also, once I finish the game, I'm going to install this mod: Unlimited Companions

[Fikes]

It is funny, just yesterday I was thinking the exact opposite about the legion. They DO have something to offer the wastes. They are a highly organized, high security dictatorship. They united the lands to the east under one banner. They let people trade long distances without needing escorts. I think the Legion is a plausible reaction to the post apocalypse.

Back before Fallout 3 there was a game in development (indie) called Fallout Tycoon. How fun would that be!? City management in the Fallout world! A guy in Russia made it but I could never get it to work (it was probably just a virus).

Anyways, back on topic, I am taking my time winning the first round. I am trying to discover every location so I can unlock that achievement. I have probably 75 hours into this play through and I just hit 30. This game was well worth the money.

[Virtz]

Back before Fallout 3 there was a game in development (indie) called Fallout Tycoon. How fun would that be!? City management in the Fallout world! A guy in Russia made it but I could never get it to work (it was probably just a virus).

I recall it actually did work and I saw two versions of it. Problem was I found the enemy raids to feel a bit dodgy and happened really early (for the scenario/faction/whatever I played anyway), so I didn't really play it much. I recall you got to choose between several different settlement types based on chosen faction. Wonder if a new version came out since then.

EDIT: You can still find it here. There was a sequel announced in like 2005, but that's probably dead since apparently nothing besides a screenshot from that date came out.

[Sergius]

I know this is pointless by now but I felt like posting this dev diary video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhStFCXMsAk

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

A friend got me this for christmas, or as he called in, Steam Sale.  So maybe my expectations were at about knee level for this, but I'm kinda liking it.  It's definitely a lot more enjoyable than Oblivion though I could once again do without all the suicidal mindlessly violent nameless NPCs you can only interact with by killing or being killed by.

Anyway I'm curious.  Are there any good and/or essential mods for this?  So far the most impressive ones I've seen have been female body mods.

[Jervous]

Finally got New Vegas. It's a lot funner than FO3 too!