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[postal83]

Not sure about New Vegas.
Are the changes good enough to sell it as a fully-fleged new game?

Yes, definately.  I actually like this one more than FO3.  Feels slightly more immersive, as immersive as the butt puppet NPCs allow.

Have only had 1 crash in a 4 hour game run, and have yet to run into any real obvious or game breaking bugs.

The ability to breakdown ammunition into lead, casings, powder, and pack new ammunition into other shell casings is a freakin awesome feature.


Anyone plan on beating the vanilla before modding it?

[Cheese]

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56505
Pretty good first impression. Enjoy the damn game and stop moaning about your immersion 

[Sergius]

Oh god that damn radio station.  I wanted it on so I could hear about my exploits, which is always cool.  But three dog needed some damn new songs and needs to talk about the news in something resembling an intelligent fashion.

Wow, ain't that right... he was always doing witty remarks like: "Hey, it seems there's some cool cats doing some stuff like defending our freedom and happiness, next time you see them pat them in the back and groove and shit and...", or "hey, there's mutants killing poor folks, what do you think, mutants are bad or something, yeah, and what's up with the enclave, they're not groovy cats...", dude, just shut the f- up.

[Deon]

Yeah, the ability to wear faction armor to blend into a faction (until a guard or a guard dog :/ see you) is a nice feature. And I was wondering why can't I report my brotherhood mission (they started to shoot me once I entered their place so I couldn't report my mission success) until I realized that I wear NCR trenchcoat.

I'm now in a *hidden* vault and I can't find out what happened there (with blues and reds experiment). I quite get the idea, but I've explored everything and it seems like there's nowhere to go else, but the story is unfinished and I don't see a note about that... Did somebody see it? I won't spoil its contents or location, I will just say that I now sit inside without ANY ammo because I've wasted it on night stalkers and fire geckos, and I don't know how to find the rest part of the vault's story .

[Deon]

Mwahaha, thanks god I didn't see it
http://www.wegame.com/watch/fallout-new-vegas-intro-bug/

[debvon]

My unimportant take on the game.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm a sucker for Bethesda games. The (as stated earlier) butt puppet NPC's, which all have the Bethesda feel to them, do radiate a certain charm? I guess? However, there are a couple of things in New Vegas that I am going to bitch about. I don't find these things to be major in any way, more like minor disappointments. Things that don't really matter in the long run but still bug me.

First of all I absolutely hate when developers try to smack COWBOY WESTERN THEMED, BITCH! into their games. The game does take place in the southwest, but for the love of god, it's the FUTURE. Something about a post-apocalyptic town of grammatically ignorant, cowboy-themed, tumbleweed fucking dust heads just doesn't feel right. I mean, why? Wouldn't they just be like any other wasteland tribe? What made them come out of hiding and say "Okay, let's all work on our southern accents! Somebody find us a jukebox!"
    I suppose that's being a bit harsh since I guess they were going for "Future wild west." Okay, so can't you keep the theme and feel going without making the NPCs talk like retards? To be fair, the first two introductory towns were the only things that really bothered me, but I guess I'm just being petty.

Secondly, and this ties into the cowboy themed crap, most of the radio stations are horrible. This is not music that I want to be listening to. Most of it gives me a headache (seriously) after a few seconds of it playing. And the Mr. Las Vegas guy, or whatever his name is? Does anybody at all find him likeable? He just sounds like a horny, drunken old man who has locked himself inside of a radio tower. I do like the fact that the news he reports doesn't need to be translated, though. Yeah yeah, "turn off your radio then." I shall gladly do so. But it'd be nice to get an in-game news feed that doesn't play crappy music.

Okay, so those are my only two main complaints so far. Everything else has been very enjoyable. I'm loving the companions, and I also love sitting there and listening to an NPC's entire story. It seems like they did a lot of work (as usual?) on making lore accessible right at the start, that way you don't feel lost going into different situations. The twists and turns you experience are great as always, and the surreal portrayal of intelligent robots is just as cool as it has ever been.


If you are a Fallout fan, this is definitely not a game to pass up.

[postal83]

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=56505
Pretty good first impression. Enjoy the damn game and stop moaning about your immersion 

lol, ok, wasn't really moaning, was praising the game

[Deon]

but for the love of god, it's the FUTURE

Eh, man, it's Fallout, it's a pseudo-future, with old styled cars running on PURE ENERGY and all the 50/60s design. The theme fits perfectly. Remember Modoc or New Reno. Actually New Reno was really close to New Vegas in its theme. At least I love this part. Well, for each his own I guess, I liked the old Fallout 1/2 humor (although fallout 1 was more sane with this, it's Fallout 2 which took this silliness to new heights). But sometimes I feel like there's too much of it.

Secondly, and this ties into the cowboy themed crap, most of the radio stations are horrible.

Yeah, I agree that they need a mod, but Black mountain radio entertained me... for a while hehe. Then it repeated the same stuff again and again and became boring.

[Tilla]

On the radio front I'm hoping for another set of great radio play mods. Maybe get some stuff like Gunsmoke going!

[Soulwynd]

Just in case:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123460-potential-fix-for-npc-slowdown/

[Mindmaker]

Just found out that I can get this game for around 27€ from amazon.
I might buy it, however I have some questions first.

Exploration and landscape:
What does the "new" wasteland look like? What has changed? Has exploration remained similar to FO3?

Crafting:
How complex is the crafting and gathering system? (I've seen comparisons to Morrowind&Oblivion, and I simply loved the Alchemy skill there)

Hardcore mode:
How well do the features meld into the game? Do they provide a nice challenge or are they just tedious? (I'm fond of survival games and FO3 has been to easy)

[Deon]

Just in case:
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123460-potential-fix-for-npc-slowdown/

Wow, my PC slowed down to hell when I saw multiple NPCs, now I can finally play. Thank you Soulwynd .

Exploration and landscape:
What does the "new" wasteland look like? What has changed? Has exploration remained similar to FO3?

Crafting:
How complex is the crafting and gathering system? (I've seen comparisons to Morrowind&Oblivion, and I simply loved the Alchemy skill there)

Hardcore mode:
How well do the features meld into the game? Do they provide a nice challenge or are they just tedious? (I'm fond of survival games and FO3 has been to easy)

1) Well it's similar to FO3, but the look of the land is much closer to "Amerika" to me. "Capital Wasteland" in FO3 seemed... wrong. Also there're conveniently placed mountains which make you to travel far though dangerous locations, and landscaping is pretty neat. So far I enjoy it. Plus there're much more variable factions, and with a new feature to wear faction armor as a disguise you can walk different routes for safety (well, unless you fast-travel... I don't). So it's quite interesting.

2) The crafting system has quite a lot of ingredients and products. I wasn't using it too oftem, but sometimes it's handy. Although you have to remember components for required items you want to gather, because you can only see the "recipes" at specific workbenches... I am sure I will either remember them or find a mod or a FAQ with a list of recipes. However you can get followers which act as "workbenches" so it's not that bad further into the game.

3) After a few hours of play, I must say that Hardcore mode is pretty easy (there's a lot of food around, and water too), but it's a must-have for me. The requirement to look for doctor bags to heal crippled limbs and other features like that make combat tactics much more important. Food/sleep/drink part is really easy to satisfy though.

[Tilla]

Hmmm the D3D9 DLL doesn't seem to be helping me much, in fact I seem to get worse now - near-locking up in battle o.o

[Mindmaker]

Thank you, Deon.
I might even order it today.

[lordnincompoop]

Why do you guys get to have F:NV and not us?

No fair!