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[anacrucis]

Just a little useless non-constructive ego-padding feedback: I was playing around with this a little last night and was really impressed. I could spend as many hours playing with this as I do DF! Nice job!

[cephalo]

Just a little useless non-constructive ego-padding feedback: I was playing around with this a little last night and was really impressed. I could spend as many hours playing with this as I do DF! Nice job!

Your generosity is as boundless as my need for praise. Thank you. 

[Star Weaver]

Yeah, I've used it for all the worlds I've made since I downloaded it. I usually load something into the worldgen file with this, and then log in with DFTerm and regenerate till I like the history / rivers / sites+pops, letting it run while I do someting more "important".

I do have one itty-bitty feature request: A "clear all user edits from this map" button, along with an map-has-been-edited light (such as the button becoming un-disabled), or a "number of entries in undo stack" counter.

I just realized that I don't know if there are independant undo stacks for each map tab, and I can't look it up from here ^_^.

[cephalo]

Yeah, I've used it for all the worlds I've made since I downloaded it. I usually load something into the worldgen file with this, and then log in with DFTerm and regenerate till I like the history / rivers / sites+pops, letting it run while I do someting more "important".

I do have one itty-bitty feature request: A "clear all user edits from this map" button, along with an map-has-been-edited light (such as the button becoming un-disabled), or a "number of entries in undo stack" counter.

I just realized that I don't know if there are independant undo stacks for each map tab, and I can't look it up from here ^_^.

Yes, there are actually separate undo stacks for each map. So if you mash Ctrl-Z on one map screen, it won't affect the others.

A "clear all" would be nice. In fact, I was going to rebut your post with a false memory of putting it in there, but then I looked at the code again just in case.

[Mason11987]

Hey Cephalo, just tried this for the first time and it's really amazing.  I've been making a tool (WorldViewer) to view interesting stuff about a world after generation, and so I put a link to your tool in the first post.  I've been genning interesting worlds with it to test out my tool, and it's been really helpful.

[Star Weaver]

Yes, there are actually separate undo stacks for each map. So if you mash Ctrl-Z on one map screen, it won't affect the others.

A "clear all" would be nice. In fact, I was going to rebut your post with a false memory of putting it in there, but then I looked at the code again just in case.

Cool. . I have a habit of posting when I can't get at things to experiment, so ...

Oh, I did have one other (hopefully super simple) wish: north and south savagry gradients, would probably be useful with narrow tall maps .

[cephalo]

Hey Cephalo, just tried this for the first time and it's really amazing.  I've been making a tool (WorldViewer) to view interesting stuff about a world after generation, and so I put a link to your tool in the first post.  I've been genning interesting worlds with it to test out my tool, and it's been really helpful.

This sounds like a really cool utility. It would be awsome if you could display the map and let people mouse over places to get info, and what happened there. Although, we don't really have access to all the legends info do we? It still would be great to get sites and pops though.

Also, if I may ask, what framework are you using for your UI?

Cool. . I have a habit of posting when I can't get at things to experiment, so ...

Oh, I did have one other (hopefully super simple) wish: north and south savagry gradients, would probably be useful with narrow tall maps .

Eventually that has to go in, but the reason I didn't yet was because I thought north/south would be incompatible with the fact there's always a north/south pole. If your savagery is tied to your temperature that closely, it could really greatly limit the kind of creatures and animals that would exist in your world. It seemed undesireable to me to have nearly all the cold areas be calm and all the hot areas be savage, or vice versa.

You can still kinda mimic this with the radial gradient, especially with noise added you can hardly tell the difference.

[Star Weaver]

Eventually that has to go in, but the reason I didn't yet was because I thought north/south would be incompatible with the fact there's always a north/south pole. If your savagery is tied to your temperature that closely, it could really greatly limit the kind of creatures and animals that would exist in your world. It seemed undesireable to me to have nearly all the cold areas be calm and all the hot areas be savage, or vice versa.

You can still kinda mimic this with the radial gradient, especially with noise added you can hardly tell the difference.

Yeah, I think that's what I did with my verticle strip world I actually really like the radials, my last world I put 'heart of savegry' in some little niche in the central mountains, turned the savegry limit real low and the turbulence real high so it's mostly tiny scattered bits that get more frequent as you go in. (Before this I kept blocking civ growth accidentally ^_^).

Hmm... it might actually be a good idea to go in and paint high savegry in the little disjoint areas if you don't want civs that can't access any other civs or that aren't reachable from the fast travel map in adv mode.

[Mason11987]

Hey Cephalo, just tried this for the first time and it's really amazing.  I've been making a tool (WorldViewer) to view interesting stuff about a world after generation, and so I put a link to your tool in the first post.  I've been genning interesting worlds with it to test out my tool, and it's been really helpful.

This sounds like a really cool utility. It would be awsome if you could display the map and let people mouse over places to get info, and what happened there. Although, we don't really have access to all the legends info do we? It still would be great to get sites and pops though.

Also, if I may ask, what framework are you using for your UI?

The locations of the sites aren't outputted except in the XML.  I've tried exporting the XML but for many worlds this is incredibly large (>400 MB).  I'm sure you've seen the XML but it has a few differnet toplevels.  If I could just split away the events top level, then it might be manageable, but I'm not sure of an easy way of doing it.

Oh, and I'm using VB6 .

[cephalo]

The locations of the sites aren't outputted except in the XML.  I've tried exporting the XML but for many worlds this is incredibly large (>400 MB).  I'm sure you've seen the XML but it has a few differnet toplevels.  If I could just split away the events top level, then it might be manageable, but I'm not sure of an easy way of doing it.

Oh, and I'm using VB6 .

Uh oh, somebody needs an upgrade.

Seriously though, .NET is awsome for Windows apps.  The libraries just about do everything for you. I made the custom angle control for the rain shadows in like an hour.

I will continue the discussion regarding the world viewer in your thread.

[Mason11987]

The locations of the sites aren't outputted except in the XML.  I've tried exporting the XML but for many worlds this is incredibly large (>400 MB).  I'm sure you've seen the XML but it has a few differnet toplevels.  If I could just split away the events top level, then it might be manageable, but I'm not sure of an easy way of doing it.

Oh, and I'm using VB6 .

Uh oh, somebody needs an upgrade.

Seriously though, .NET is awsome for Windows apps.  The libraries just about do everything for you. I made the custom angle control for the rain shadows in like an hour.

I will continue the discussion regarding the world viewer in your thread.

Haha, I've used .net.  I just haven't gotten to the point where I can have an interesting idea for a program and make it as quickly in anything else.

There certainly are many many downsides to vb6, but it's still working for me.  But the stuff I've done is nothing like perfectworld, so I certainly can see your point .

[SammyLiimex]

Does this still work with the new .09? or does it need to be updated?

[cephalo]

The part of DF that this uses doesn't really change very often at all, so it should work without any updates. If you ever have trouble for any reason just post about it here.

[SammyLiimex]

Okay, thanks!

[Dora Feddy]

Just got this and tried it out, and honestly, I'm impressed. After a little lookup on how it worked, I found that it was fun and easy to use. This is one of those utilities that is just as fun as the game itself!