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[Alexei403]

I've got ten dwarves right now, and one has "the ability to focus." That's it for the positive soul attributes. The rest are atrocious, and the other nine don't have a single positive one.

Is this normal, and will it be resolved when I get more migrants (I'll admit ten is a small number)? Or do soul attributes decay like the regular ones when not used (you'd think they'd be better at judging emotions or something what with all their sitting around and talking to each other and stuff), and if so do I need to do anything special to increase them?

EDIT: Just got another wave of migrants. A few positive ones, but not very many. Maybe five total attributes positive now. Population up to 19.

[Schilcote]

I think you were just really unlucky.

[dpara]

I think you were just really unlucky.

I don't think so, actually I am starting to believe that dwarves (now?) tend to be created "similar".

So far I experienced the embark 7 with:
about 5 of them with either mighty, creative, crowd avoiding or fast to tire. The majority of my embark guys had a theme.
(...I wouldn't know if that theme persists to the immigrants since I never read their attributes)

In my current game I embarked with 3 proficient armorers (in my previous 3 successive games my sole armorers had...accidents and I got no immigrating armorers) and now I have about 4 immigrant armorers after my third wave.

CONSPIRACY!!

[Bronzebeard]

Keep in mind that attributes can change depending on what the dwarf does; if they're quick to tire, for instance, and they spend a decade soldiering, they'll be indefatigable soon enough. I don't know (and doubt) that things like focus improve with jobs such as managing orders or updating records, though. As far as I know, immigrant professions are rather random, but sometimes the game'll suspiciously throw in some professions you're short on.

[Alexei403]

Yeah, I know the mighty, agile, etc. attributes can increase.

I was wondering about the ones like music ability and stuff.

[DarthCloakedDwarf]

It seems normal for dwarves to have all attributes bad. I think in my fortress of sixty-one, I've seen only a handful with two green stats. I have, however, seen many with two or more lines of red.

[Corona688]

Yeah, I know the mighty, agile, etc. attributes can increase.

These attributes are no more.  It's more complex now.

I was wondering about the ones like music ability and stuff.

There's nothing in the game that improves them, so they just rust into nothing.

[Alexei403]

Yeah, I know the mighty, agile, etc. attributes can increase.

These attributes are no more.  It's more complex now.

I was wondering about the ones like music ability and stuff.

There's nothing in the game that improves them, so they just rust into nothing.

I know it's more complex, but I've seen "he is absolutely inexhaustible and mighty, but..." which are the ones I was referring to. Sucks about the soul attributes, though.

[BurnedToast]

Actually attribute gain in general is broken, not just soul attributes.

Military training (individual combat drills anyway, all I can reliably get dwarves to do) trains strength, agility, and endurance.

No other jobs train anything at all, or if they do it's at a hilariously low rate. So everyone who's not in the military will end up with miserable stats after 5 - 10 years.

You can disable stat rust for now by editing the raws (don't remember how offhand, sorry) since it's actually fairly crippling - dwarves with rusted agility move really slow, seemingly half (or less) the speed of a normal, fresh immigrant dwarf and I'm sure the rest has some effect as well.

[Sabin Stargem]

Digging also rises Agility, Strength, and Endurance.  Better than military training, if only because it isn't nearly as buggy.

[Oglokoog]

I think agility increases by just walking, but I might be wrong. Also, maybe the starting attributes are somehow derived from the home civilisation? There could be stronger or weaker dwarven kingdoms.

[UnLimiTeD]

Likely, embark a few days ago had a reasonable mix, I had dwarfs with good and bad attributes, and they weren't very mixed.
I had someone with three positive soul attributes and two negatives, one dwarf with 2 + and 2 -, and weird mixes like fast healing and super tough, but weak, clumsy and quick to tire.