Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Solifuge]

Well, that's...honestly, extremely suspicious. You're playing different from last game, when you were Town. My vote's gonna stay while I observe you more.

Interpret as you will. I'm not putting much energy or concern into acting "the same as usual". Remaining unpredictable and without too blatant a pattern is 50% of my formula.

The road less-traveled, m'boy. It's what all true warriors strive for.

Also, Nuke, feel free to forget the transgressions of the past, and start not exhibiting the same tells that Diabolus was, whenever you want to.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Nuke9.13: Solifuge
Ethereal.Frog : forsaken1111, Jim Groovester
Jim Groovester : Ethereal.Frog, Toaster
Org : JanusTwoFace
Ottofar : webadict
Pandarsenic : ToonyMan
Solifuge : Criptfeind, Jokerman-EXE, Mr. Person, Ottofar
Toaster : Leafsnail
webadict : Nuke9.13, Org


Day 1 ends ~5pm Pacific Friday

[forsaken1111]

forsaken1111:  You've yet to clearly articulate any suspicious.  Do you not have any, or are you just lying back waiting for people to hunt each other to death?

Actually I was asleep, then working, and now I've been having great fun reading the several pages that have popped up since my last post.

As for suspicions, I'm dropping my random vote (Unvote) calling Solifuge on this one.

Unvote Diabolus, Vote Nuke9.13 for clarity.

Glad of you to join us! Care to explain your former self's waffly quasi-help, and friendly demeanor?

Seriously? You jumped on someone for being replaced? That's not even a reason. Combine this with your other behavior, I think you're desperately trying to deflect.

[NUKE9.13]

Awlright!
This is what is going down:
After going through the thread, I have questionmarks next to the following people:
Toaster: Has this guy never played mafia before, or does he have a history of being an idiot? Otherwise, he is acting real off.
At some point he mentioned a 'joke tell'. I am not sure to what he was referring, but it doesn't matter: I hope to god that it was a real tell, because deliberately acting like scum (whilst you are town) is not, has not been, and never will be helpful to the town, and, in fact, detracts from the town's strength, as people are lead off on wild goose chases. So, you are either scum, or town screwing it up for the rest of us. >:|
Org: I know it was a RVS thing, but why care about aliens? At this point in the game, dopps are a far greater threat than any hypothetical aliens, of which only the exterminator and his operative are a major threat to the town. ??
Solifuge: My lack of recent activity means I have no frame of reference against which to judge his puzzling behaviour. From what I have seen, though, it is simply a RVS ploy. ?
Ottofar: Man, what? This guy, so crazy. Practically every post of his has been crazy defensive or scummy. ?
Criptfiend: Complaining that your role is too complex? Firstly, if you can't handle every role on the roster, why are you playing; secondly, what the hell? You're claiming a complex role? That suggests that you aren't worried that you will be killed off for your high-value role, which in turn suggests you are scum yourself. Also, he seemed eager to protect Ottofar, who seems pretty suspicious himself.
Ethereal.Frog:

Unvote Jim Groovestar because I'm a scared lazy noob.

HA HA HA THATS OK THEN, YOU ARE ONLY A NOOB, HA HA.
Is this guy actually an expert mafia player who is being ironic? If not, you cannot get away with this. You cannot deflect any attention that comes your way by means of a joke. This one post is as good as meph himself saying 'this guy is scum'. >:| >:|
Ethereal.Frog

forsaken1111:  You've yet to clearly articulate any suspicious.  Do you not have any, or are you just lying back waiting for people to hunt each other to death?

Actually I was asleep, then working, and now I've been having great fun reading the several pages that have popped up since my last post.

As for suspicions, I'm dropping my random vote (Unvote) calling Solifuge on this one.

Unvote Diabolus, Vote Nuke9.13 for clarity.

Glad of you to join us! Care to explain your former self's waffly quasi-help, and friendly demeanor?

Seriously? You jumped on someone for being replaced? That's not even a reason. Combine this with your other behavior, I think you're desperately trying to deflect.

Um, I replaced Diabolous. FYI.

[forsaken1111]

Um, I replaced Diabolous. FYI.

Yes... and he's attacking you right away. Sure maybe he's just trying to get a read on you, more likely he's trying to convince others that he's being helpful townie.

[Toaster]

Toaster: Has this guy never played mafia before, or does he have a history of being an idiot? Otherwise, he is acting real off.
At some point he mentioned a 'joke tell'. I am not sure to what he was referring, but it doesn't matter: I hope to god that it was a real tell, because deliberately acting like scum (whilst you are town) is not, has not been, and never will be helpful to the town, and, in fact, detracts from the town's strength, as people are lead off on wild goose chases. So, you are either scum, or town screwing it up for the rest of us. >:|

I am indeed new.  The "joke tell" comment was me referring to the joke I cracked to Jim about moderators never being wrong.  It came off very badly, so clearly I need to think twice about joking comments.

[Ethereal.Frog]

I had a post here where I laid all my thoughts bare and ended with a sentence that included too much strike-through.. Then I accidentally hit mouse4 and lost the post. Too bad.

Jim Groovestar. Seemed FAR TOO DEFENSIVE and such. Also, he's directing way too much hate at Toaster over a simple joke.

What do you think Toaster's alignment is, Ethereal.Frog?

That upper bit's meant to be somebody's quote, but I'm messed up the formatting and then stopped caring.



Me defending Toaster stopped making sense to me, just like everything else. Like, I still feel Jim is being a bit over-aggressive over that, but that makes sense now. But Toaster here, he hasn't done much other than poke Jim and ask other people what think. Seems like he's trying to gauge threats and mis-aim a lynch. Vote count indicates that that's not going to well. He seems scummy to me, but I'm still trying to determine whether or not mafia games run on a special set of logic rules that don't apply to anything else.

Ethereal.Frog:

Unvote Jim Groovestar because I'm a scared lazy noob.

HA HA HA THATS OK THEN, YOU ARE ONLY A NOOB, HA HA.

Now I realize that I've fucked myself over horribly by jumping on what seemed like a reasonably suspicion.  Oh well. Wonder how long I'll last. I seriously have no idea what to do now. Probably just hop on the Solifuge wagon then lay down and wait to die. Yeah, that sounds good. I'm thinking today is my death. If not today, definitely tomorrow.

Solifuge

[forsaken1111]

Now I realize that I've fucked myself over horribly by jumping on what seemed like a reasonably suspicion.  Oh well. Wonder how long I'll last. I seriously have no idea what to do now. Probably just hop on the Solifuge wagon then lay down and wait to die. Yeah, that sounds good. I'm thinking today is my death. If not today, definitely tomorrow.
Solifuge

No... just no. If you're going to vote someone, give a reason. Voice a suspicion. Or at least pressure them to get them to respond. Laying down to die and jumping on another bandwagon is not the way to look like town, OR to help the town. This doesn't help us at all.

In fact I had been distracted by Soli's odd behavior but after this? No I'm unvoting and going right back to you Ethereal.Frog. Admitting that you made a mistake is fine. But you're making ANOTHER mistake here, giving up and just jumping on an obvious bandwagon. Even if you ARE town, which I now doubt, you won't help be much help to us like this.

[Solifuge]

Um, I replaced Diabolous. FYI.

Yes... and he's attacking you right away. Sure maybe he's just trying to get a read on you, more likely he's trying to convince others that he's being helpful townie.

Make yourself  suspicious enough by being just slightly off-kilter, and you're like one of those pheromone-based bug traps for scum, who are searching for anything that looks like a ""safe" lynch. Moreover, if it goes poorly and you end up getting lynched, you role-flip, and any scum silly enough to get caught in the trap have shown all sorts of wonderful tells for your teammates to pick up on.

I shall henceforth call this technique the Martyrbomb. Thanks for the suspicion, forsaken111! Much obliged.

Anywho, Ethereal.Frog, for serious. Trying to die is a really great way to... well, die. Bandwagoning, vote-hopping, professing how suspicious you must look to everyone, and vocally postulating about how likely you are to die is not an effective means of disuading others, or deflecting attention... it's called Lampshading, and it is a very poor defense.

What you need to do is hunt. Don't agree with others unless you get the same sort of feeling about them. If you do, provide evidence that adds to it, if possible. Unless you've got reasons, don't go hopping willy-nilly on the best opportunity to get someone killed, because that looks hella bad.

[ToonyMan]

Man, I missed out on Kamina quote night.
Just for everyone around here, NUKE is a very dangerous mafia player so just be all 'round aggressive to everyone or else you're going nowhere.


Webadict and Ottofar situation,
Winner is Webadict, you want to know why?  I'll tell you, Ottofar you fell for Webadict's trap he does every game.  When Webadict does a vote in RVS he likes to use fallacious or something you don't want to do later on in the game, in this case he did something or another I don't remember what and you bit the trap.  You became highly defensive and after finding out your mistake tried too hard to cover up.

Jim Groovy,
From another game I can tell Jim is not likely scum because of his hammy scum hunting behavior, which isn't a bad thing.

Ethereal.Frog,
Ugh, this is one of the worst situations in mafia.  Think of it like Org, but a new player that doesn't keep sucking.  Frog, this is for you buddy, map yourself a new town game right now.  This reminds me of Diakron in a way and I always fell for it, lynching town constantly.  Clean up or you will be lynched.

Toaster,
Don't say something you did was a joke, that doesn't work.

Pandarsenic,
Unvote, I'm done RVing now.


Ottofar, your reaction unnerves me to no end.

[NUKE9.13]

Just for everyone around here, NUKE is a very dangerous mafia player so just be all 'round aggressive to everyone or else you're going nowhere.

Aww, shucks. You're too kind.

Durrr

I was going to rant at you for several paragraphs about giving up/the 'i give up defence' and why you may never use either, but it seemed overly harsh. I will summarise:
1)Never give up. If you give up, you break the game, ruining it for everyone else.
2)Never pretend to give up in a game without jesters. It never works and it is rage-inducing.
Anyway, lynch this guy, everyone. There can be no question. I remind you that just because a lynchee has been chosen does not mean we can stop scumhunting.

clearly I need to think twice about joking comments.

Yes you should. In fact, you should think twice about making all comments, regardless of nature. Re-read every post before you post it, and think to yourself; could this be thought of as scummy (regardless of alignment)? If so, is there a different way of saying it?

[Solifuge]

clearly I need to think twice about joking comments.

Yes you should. In fact, you should think twice about making all comments, regardless of nature. Re-read every post before you post it, and think to yourself; could this be thought of as scummy (regardless of alignment)? If so, is there a different way of saying it?

...or you can be like me, and adopt utter flippancy, punctuated by player analysis and empathy-reads. I make fun in and about the game cosntantly, and have a good time at it, while also doing my best to fit in some scumhunting. It's also important to not let the silliness impede the Serious Business Mafiaficionados as they go about their hunts too. Gotta strike a balance.

[Ottofar]

I was overly defensive? Whoa.. I just thought: ”What the hell, he's voting me for practically no reason at all.”

@Nuke, you think I'm scummy here? Go see vote mafia 6.

[Mr.Person]

So Solifuge, besides Ethereal.Frog, who else is scum?

[Criptfeind]

Unvote Solifuge

Did you have a question nuke? It looked like it but I could not find one.